Your Advice. I Have A "good" Dilemna Here

[LatinR33]

Ok well this is the deal. I own a series 2 r33 skyline. Love it to bits and have kept it reasonably stock with only a turboback system and thats enough for me cause means less hassles. Ok well for my birthday my freinds all chipped in and bought me a Blitz LM spec FMIC kit which is a direct fit hooks up to factory pipes and stuff.

I am not going to boost my car or do other stuff to it so would you recomment i install it??? Last night i was driving in the cold condition and the car drives heaps mad compared to when its hot so im wondering maybe this will make it run awesome in hot weather. Not to sure if i'll get any negative affects like making it run super rich and stuff or mess with other stuff like idle,ecu etc. I once slapped on a bov which i was given as a gift and totally regretted it. so yeh what do you guys think???? would my car suffer from this or would my cars engine/ factory ecu longevity suffer??

[shif_tea]

if you're not going to boost it at all then i think you'll probably just notice more lag with a bigger fmic. However if you boost it up to 10psi or so the intercooler is a good idea.

[Links]

check that it is a direct fit.. i'm pretty sure it's a direct replacement on a GTR however i'm not sure how it can be on a GTS-T as they have a SMIC not a FMIC..

probably not a huge amount of point putting it on if your not going to boost it at all.. you could put it up to about 10/11psi.. but that's about it..

[Husky33]

Yes it is a direct fit for a gtst, it has the return pipe that goes back under the cooler.

I only had an exhaust and pod when i installed my blitz lm cooler. Yes you can notice a big difference, feels more torquey and punchy. Also felt better in hot weather also. Well worth fitting it

[LatinR33]

Hey 180_mph I was speaking to the mechanic and they told me the same as you. I dont have a pod but a apexi panel filter and it improves performace. did you notice the car running richer or anything negative.

[nuffsaid]

his car is probably already boosting to 10psi with the full turbo back exhaust

so maybe a good idea to fit it, will come in handy in hot weather

[LatinR33]

Yeh i hate hot weather doesnt drive as good in cold weather. if putting a fmic makes my car drive like it does in cold weather all year around then it would be worth it. I know a couple of s15's running stock boost and just an exhaust with fmic and runs great all year round just checking if its the same on skylines.

[WazR32GTSt]

extra lag? seriously you won't notice anything difference. those that tell you it make any difference are kidding themselves

the only downside to getting a FMIC is the cost. that is alreay taken care of in your case (some nice friends you have)

it basically means your car will never detonate due to excess intake temps. ever. what's the downside to that?

plus it looks great with a nice big FMIC sitting in the front bumper..

put it on. love it. stop procrastinating - book it in tomorrow!

[Husky33]

Hey 180_mph I was speaking to the mechanic and they told me the same as you. I dont have a pod but a apexi panel filter and it improves performace. did you notice the car running richer or anything negative.

The can ran 7pis before install(stock boost) and 7psi after install. YOu can easily notice the gains. I couldnt notice the car running any richer at all ie. smoke or low km's, but it may have been slightly.

Nothing negative at all. And no extra lag at all.

[R33S2]

The lower intake temp the better, cold air is denser and by ratio more oxygen packed in it.

I installed an air temp sensor for the microtech and watching the temps in summer, it goes 1 or 2 below air outside temp but if it rains it drops by halve.

[nuffsaid]

I guess the question thats need to be answered is:

"does a FMIC make the car run like as if its always a cold night? even on warm days?"

we all know that on cold nights, our cars run much better, will a FMIC reproduce this effect in all conditions?

[TTT]

book him in Davo

I'm pretty sure it been covered before but I'll try to remember.

when RB25 owners have upgraded from stock intercooler to fmic, they GAINED in many ways.

1.) car is more punchy.

2.) No increase in lag.

3.) actually gained more power too.

Considering that the stock cooler on the r33 is same as r32 (in size and efficiency), you can see how you would gain with a fmic.

the stocker is pretty crap in general on an RB20 so going up 500cc and about 30kw using the same cooler is pretty crap.

put it this way, by puting this fmic on (nice choice by your friends I might add), during the day, your motor will be seeing the same sort of temps as it does at night.

and during the night, you will get even better performance.

being a fello SAU member, I am willing to help you out if you don't put this thing on your car, by personally, taking it out of your site for you.

[dezz]

its useless if ur not going to boost it....the stock side mount will handle 10psi anyway

sell it

ill buy it coz ill be running more than 10psi

[RB30-POWER]

put it on, reduced pressure drop across the core, more heat sink area to effectively reduce heat soak in traffic, plus the greater core area is going to aid cooling immensely when moving along even with stock boost.

[Abo Bob]

extra lag? seriously you won't notice anything difference. those that tell you it make any difference are kidding themselves

the only downside to getting a FMIC is the cost. that is alreay taken care of in your case (some nice friends you have)

it basically means your car will never detonate due to excess intake temps. ever. what's the downside to that?

plus it looks great with a nice big FMIC sitting in the front bumper..

put it on. love it. stop procrastinating - book it in tomorrow!

Those that tell it wont make any extra lag are not observant enough to notice.

[paulr33]

agree with abo bob. there is always noticable throttle lag when going from stock SMIC to FMIC. there is more phyiscal pipework and large core to pressurize each time. also many other things cause detonation so its not the one stop solution to getting rid of detonation.

a fmic is only as good as the airflow through it and the airtemp

[IMACUL8]

I also agree with Abo Bob and paulr33

Has to increase lag.

Edited April 25, 2006 by IMACUL8

[shif_tea]

I also agree with Abo Bob and paulr33

Has to increase lag.

jipped i don't even get a mention

[Busky2k]

I guess the question thats need to be answered is:

"does a FMIC make the car run like as if its always a cold night? even on warm days?"

we all know that on cold nights, our cars run much better, will a FMIC reproduce this effect in all conditions?

Nah I found even in a warm day it wont run like it would on cold night. But the performance difference between a hot day and not wasnt as large with a FMIC. On a hot day, everything else heats up more like the plenum etc which also affects performance.

[nuffsaid]

Nah I found even in a warm day it wont run like it would on cold night. But the performance difference between a hot day and not wasnt as large with a FMIC. On a hot day, everything else heats up more like the plenum etc which also affects performance.

Well I guess its probably not worth me going out to get one. I always thought that it would make the car run nicely on a hot day.

Cheers