wilch Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 OUCH! and oi Chris.. You might provide the cable ties, but remember I'm the one that does the tieing! oh, and I'm with thomas RB26! This is a VERY complex discussion that can go on for ages, and will surely piss the rest of the whores off if we discuss it in this thread, but in a nutshell, all things being equal, a normal stroke RB26 is better for big power on street fuel than using an RB30 crank for the following reasons-*The piston speed is lower at the same revs *There is less side thrust exerted on the bores by the pistons, due to less conrod angular/side motion (less heat/friction) *The Piston spends more time in the dwell state at TDC and BDC *The Bore/Stroke ratio is much better (over-square engines like to rev harder) Which helps, briefly, with the following *Keeps frictional losses down (engine lasts longer, makes power more easily) *Helps secondary balance *Optimises manifold air speed at high revs And blahdy, blahdy, blah. [/end rant] Nissan could have made the engine 3L if they wanted to, but they didn't. P.s 2JZ's and RB30's both have around 6800rpm limits from the factory, which is the same piston speed as an RB26 at 8000rpm. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/114818-ohmagoshbang/page/3/#findComment-2114680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 KABOOM! you did that properly! good luck getting it back together Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/114818-ohmagoshbang/page/3/#findComment-2114694 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie@ Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 ooohhhh... that looks nasty.... hope you get it back on the road soon... Ahh... cable ties... is there anything they can't fix? just ask Mcguyver for help.... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/114818-ohmagoshbang/page/3/#findComment-2114697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moanie Posted April 24, 2006 Author Share Posted April 24, 2006 yeah.. where were all the people in my sig when she went OHMAGOSHBANG! HRMP!!! i could have used you all with your cable times! rudenesss!!!!!!! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/114818-ohmagoshbang/page/3/#findComment-2114745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunta Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 Wow thats impressive!!! It will be sweet when it has the CA18DE in there, should be an animal,ooops I've said too much......... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/114818-ohmagoshbang/page/3/#findComment-2114750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lingeringsoul Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 (edited) holy mother of what ever religion, that is some nasty looking damage. I guess it's time to put goodies in it huh? Edited April 25, 2006 by lingeringsoul Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/114818-ohmagoshbang/page/3/#findComment-2114776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2rismo Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 the check engine light would have resembled a red strobe light Orange. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/114818-ohmagoshbang/page/3/#findComment-2114801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2rismo Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Ahh... cable ties... is there anything they can't fix? No Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/114818-ohmagoshbang/page/3/#findComment-2114802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatz Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 here comes the boom! tip for little dooers if ya hear a rattling dont do another lap dont hold back n the new engine tear your driveline a new arsehole i say 800000000kw yea baby Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/114818-ohmagoshbang/page/3/#findComment-2114806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Baron Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 hey moaner, are they the after pics? i cant see the damage? looks all good. i say just whack it back in and away you go. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/114818-ohmagoshbang/page/3/#findComment-2114814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moanie Posted April 25, 2006 Author Share Posted April 25, 2006 hahaha.. you're funny fats!! there really was only one lap with the knocking sound.. i didn't hear a thing with the helmet on yeap!! thats the plan richie.. but shhhhh Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/114818-ohmagoshbang/page/3/#findComment-2114858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranicx Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 dang, is there much damage to the block mona? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/114818-ohmagoshbang/page/3/#findComment-2114864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoughBoy Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Ouch... how much damage to the head (esp the combustion chamber on 6)? Pretty respectable effort, haven't seen something that smashed for a long time! Edit - that quote from R32R at the top of the page is wrong, very very wrong. I think he's got things crossed up. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/114818-ohmagoshbang/page/3/#findComment-2114867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moanie Posted April 25, 2006 Author Share Posted April 25, 2006 LOL!!! i'll take that as a compliment doughboy! rani - the block isn't recoverable! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/114818-ohmagoshbang/page/3/#findComment-2114871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranicx Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 LOL!!! i'll take that as a compliment doughboy! rani - the block isn't recoverable! ooo bugga not good mona. guess your going to have to save all you drinking money now Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/114818-ohmagoshbang/page/3/#findComment-2114872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abo Bob Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Ouch... how much damage to the head (esp the combustion chamber on 6)?Pretty respectable effort, haven't seen something that smashed for a long time! Edit - that quote from R32R at the top of the page is wrong, very very wrong. I think he's got things crossed up. That's what I thought too but I'm glad somebody more knowledgable than me said it first. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/114818-ohmagoshbang/page/3/#findComment-2114911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moanie Posted April 25, 2006 Author Share Posted April 25, 2006 doughboy/adam!! please explain! just would like to get a better understanding! i don't know alot about how the engine works... this will be in interesting learning experience!!! yeah adam... you'll have to buy me drinks instead! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/114818-ohmagoshbang/page/3/#findComment-2114925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilch Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 But but but, if RB30 bottom ends are so good, then why can't I get a crate engine with an RB30 bottom end shipped from Japan? (innocent look) No one will do it for me! They all say something along the lines of, "Are you stupid?" (innocent look) (...stupid for asking them to build it, not stupid for asking them to build one and send it) Seriously though, I'd like to hear someone that is all for RB30's tell me why they're better. I have no idea. ..uhm..so as not to hijack mona's thread, this is for your benefit too moonie Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/114818-ohmagoshbang/page/3/#findComment-2115073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
br3tt Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Ouch ouch ouch. Atleast you have GTR 53X to keep you going All the best with whatever Rb30DE secret you have planned Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/114818-ohmagoshbang/page/3/#findComment-2115119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldZilla Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 i've heard RB20DE It will be sweet when it has the CA18DE in there, should be an animal,ooops I've said too much......... Personally, I'd be going for an L16 and turbo, blowing through a decent sized carbie of some sort - 45mm Weber, Dellorto or SU, side-draught of course... im sure u can cable tie it back together.. no biggy Bit of gaffa tape and she'll be all good again.. Ahhh, cable ties and gaffa/electrical tape - the drift/drag/circuit racer's and mechanic's best friend! Seriously though, that is some heavy duty damage. Mona, you should keep the parts and display them somehow for memories. Ahhh, the good times! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/114818-ohmagoshbang/page/3/#findComment-2115266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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