adam_lateshift Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 (edited) Just so u kno my GTR has 250 atw's. Have many people gone to the track and tried drifting a R32 GTR. I have had a few practices. It gets pretty good angles but it wants to staighten up after a bit of sideways and you really have to work it to keep it out. Is this the hicas?? Is it worth getting a lock bar?? Also should I for the drift day take the front drive shaft out?? Is it just the 4 or so bolts?? Will oil piss out when I take it out?? Or is it okay just taking the fuse out?? Only other thing is should I worry about weight reduction too much? Passenger seats, Spare wheel, anything loose etc?? Any other tips let me know. Cheers fella's P.S by the way I know a GTR is no drift car I just wanna give it a go. Edited May 2, 2006 by adam_lateshift Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/115916-drifting-r-32-gtr/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebola Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 I'm no expert (sadly), but I can answer one. just pop the fuse. I have a gts4, and one day (when a drift day in not on a sunday), I'll actually make it, and all I'll be doing is pulling the fuse. oh - and using other tyres. When it was trying to pull in, was that with the fuse out? if not, it would be the front wheels. with 250 kW at the wheels, while I am sure every gram helps, I doubt you will be having issues losing traction. I'd suggest that unless you are serious, just remove the spare, tools, etc. hope I haven't led you up the garden path. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/115916-drifting-r-32-gtr/#findComment-2139893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deluxe Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 (edited) Hey buddy, I have seen 1 32 GTR out at Mallala once.......didn't look too good, but hey that could come down to car setup and driver skill! Firstly it would be ALOT better to remove your hicas, remembering that hicas is a 'oversteer correction' therefor it's helping you straighten up, SO a Hicas lock bar would be a very good start. Secondly as ebola said take the fuse out Thirdly weight reduction can help......but it may not pay to take seats and spare out until you have a feel of the car, eitherway with 250kw you should have no worries. Also if you feel some axle tramp in the rears then you might wanna pick yourself up some Cradle Bushes / Pineapples(helps get the power to the ground) Just remember if it's your first time, don't get pissed off because your not the best in the world, and take critisisum(spelling) constructivly.....you can work on that! AND HAVE FUN No reason why a GTR can't drift! Edited May 4, 2006 by Deluxe Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/115916-drifting-r-32-gtr/#findComment-2140264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam_lateshift Posted May 4, 2006 Author Share Posted May 4, 2006 cheers fellas for the help. Can't wait to get out there and see how it goes. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/115916-drifting-r-32-gtr/#findComment-2141623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRIFTER Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 get rid of as much weight as you can, practise lots. if you like it heaps, take out the front drive shafts(big job) and covert it to gtst front end to get more lock. i think it is cheaper to start with a gtr than a gtst when you break it right down. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/115916-drifting-r-32-gtr/#findComment-2165795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R31Nismoid Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 take out the front drive shafts(big job) It takes about 15mins. I'd call that a fast/easy job Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/115916-drifting-r-32-gtr/#findComment-2165899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiseLiner Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 It takes about 15mins.I'd call that a fast/easy job i think he meant front axles not the front driveshaft by the sounds of it Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/115916-drifting-r-32-gtr/#findComment-2166095 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandingo Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 wire a switch between the fuse and the holder. hey presto instant RWD Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/115916-drifting-r-32-gtr/#findComment-2166754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DVS JEZ Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 if you pull the front shafts out you will have to seperate the hub end so you can bolt it back in the hub to hold the bearing together... right? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/115916-drifting-r-32-gtr/#findComment-2169113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRIFTER Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 if you pull the front shafts out you will have to seperate the hub end so you can bolt it back in the hub to hold the bearing together...right? that's right, but get nismiod to do it cause he can do it in 15 minutes p.s. can you come and work for me, if your as fast as you say you are, i'll make a killing Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/115916-drifting-r-32-gtr/#findComment-2170310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R31Nismoid Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 Also should I for the drift day take the front drive shaft out This is going from the transfer case to the front diff correct? Removing the above mentioned part is not a massive task. If you fart around in your backyard (DIY) tops 30mins, or maybe more. Depends how fast you drink your beers and how many mates are around telling you there is a faster way Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/115916-drifting-r-32-gtr/#findComment-2170384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmasterb Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 This is going from the transfer case to the front diff correct?Removing the above mentioned part is not a massive task. If you fart around in your backyard (DIY) tops 30mins, or maybe more. Depends how fast you drink your beers and how many mates are around telling you there is a faster way Im with you on this one. The more i seem to drink the faster i get things done. Or maybe its cause i think im working fast but i have no relevance to time Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/115916-drifting-r-32-gtr/#findComment-2171453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebola Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 (edited) I really don't get why you would want to remove anything but the fuse. You won't damage anything as a direct consequence (drifting into a wall at 90k however, may cause minor panel damage...) So you can pull the fuse (hint: wire in a switch), have fun drifting in RWD, and drive home in 4wd (still first off at the lights if you so require, and you can corner faster). And it takes out the abs as well, which I _guess_ would help with drifting. I plan of drifting one day, and I will be doing the above (probably including the bit about wall too). I just with I had 250 awkw (well, rwkw for drift) I just don't get it. If you were a hardcore drifter (which you say you arn't, just that you woud like to go... as would I), perhaps it would be worth it. In which case you would have as much weight out of the front as possible (next suggestion - gtst with sr20. Or Cefiro with sr20 - there is one for sale on the forum at the moment) I'm just asking is it worth the effort, especailly when you are starting out and likley won't notice anytning. Edited May 16, 2006 by ebola Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/115916-drifting-r-32-gtr/#findComment-2171499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydneykid Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 As you are no doubt aware, a GTR is not a good choice for a drifter, they simply have FAR too much weight over the front wheels. This large lump of weight tends to push the front wide just when you want the nose to hold the inside line while the tail continues the slide. It is really a lesson in frustration as no amount of driver technique or suspension set up will overcome that amount of weight imbalance. I strongly suggest that you have a big long think about exactly what it is you want to achieve. cheers Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/115916-drifting-r-32-gtr/#findComment-2171982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous_daveo Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 As you are no doubt aware, a GTR is not a good choice for a drifter, they simply have FAR too much weight over the front wheels. This large lump of weight tends to push the front wide just when you want the nose to hold the inside line while the tail continues the slide. It is really a lesson in frustration as no amount of driver technique or suspension set up will overcome that amount of weight imbalance.I strongly suggest that you have a big long think about exactly what it is you want to achieve. cheers Ahahaha you sound like my Dad! He is right tho. Get a light s'box for drift. GTR for proper track stuff. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/115916-drifting-r-32-gtr/#findComment-2172085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRIFTER Posted June 18, 2006 Share Posted June 18, 2006 As you are no doubt aware, a GTR is not a good choice for a drifter, they simply have FAR too much weight over the front wheels. This large lump of weight tends to push the front wide just when you want the nose to hold the inside line while the tail continues the slide. It is really a lesson in frustration as no amount of driver technique or suspension set up will overcome that amount of weight imbalance.I strongly suggest that you have a big long think about exactly what it is you want to achieve. cheers GTRs have better engines, g/box's, diffs, gards,seats and suspention, wouldn't it be better to simply remove the front diff and drive shafts (if you could be bothered) to offset the very slight weight disadvantage than to build up a GTST? trust me, i've done it! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/115916-drifting-r-32-gtr/#findComment-2266481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmasterb Posted June 18, 2006 Share Posted June 18, 2006 GTRs have better engines, g/box's, diffs, gards,seats and suspention, wouldn't it be better to simply remove the front diff and drive shafts (if you could be bothered) to offset the very slight weight disadvantage than to build up a GTST? trust me, i've done it! Well add up what it costs if you blow a motor (Rb26's are not cheap to rebuild) and finding parts is just a pain in the arse. Compare it to a R32 GTS-t with a lo comp RB25DE, strap on the hairdryer and dial in 16psi and you have 270rwk's and lots of torque. We all know that torque equals fun The main reason Adam asked this question in the first place was becuase he only had the GTR and we had our first Drift day here on the Apple Isle. He now has a drift pig and i believe the GTR will be left for its daily driving duties Cheers GMB DrifTas Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/115916-drifting-r-32-gtr/#findComment-2266631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydneykid Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 He now has a drift pig and i believe the GTR will be left for its daily driving duties So he took our advice then? cheers Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/115916-drifting-r-32-gtr/#findComment-2267306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
someonestolecc Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 Compare it to a R32 GTS-t with a lo comp RB25DE, strap on the hairdryer and dial in 16psi and you have 270rwk's and lots of torque.DrifTas rb25de can handle a 16psi blowdryer? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/115916-drifting-r-32-gtr/#findComment-2267628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmasterb Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 So he took our advice then? cheers Im pretty sure he was waiting for it to arrive but didnt want to miss out on the drift day rb25de can handle a 16psi blowdryer? Put a 1.9MM metal gasket in (should pull the compression to 10:1) and it will handle that on its ear. Rev better than any worked Rb20, more torque and about the same cost as building a forged 20 I know which one i would be going (i need $$$ ) Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/115916-drifting-r-32-gtr/#findComment-2267686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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