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I was just wondering if fatz or other r31 friendly people could give me some advice on something.

I currently have an r33 with a range of mild mods. It drifts pretty well, but i'm just really too scared to bend it.

I was hoping to pick up an r31 to take over the drift duties. If I bent the 31 or smashed it, or whatever, it would be fine. Just bang the panels back out with a hammer, gaffa tape fix, whatever.

Does the stock rb30 powered aussie 31 drift alright?

Anything I should be on the look out for apart from an lsd, which is of course important?

Can the stock lsd be welded?

What mods from the nissan range e.g. 32s, 33s, s13s etc can be bolted straight in or with minimal mods (I was thinking more along the lines of suspension components etc?

Does anyone actually have one for sale? I'm talking cheap like around 1k, which won't die on me, and which may have some stuff on it already like new clutch etc.

Cheers fellars

32s are way over priced for what they are. To get a decent 32, that is, one that won't blow up, i'd probably have to pay around 11-12k. Then I still end up only having a stock way underpowered and undertorqued car. It would still have boat suspensions and everything.

If I was going to pay aroudn that price, i'd just pick up another 33 for around 13-14k instead. The rb25 would be much more appropriate.

That's why I was looking for a 31. I've read various posts from fatz and other knowledgeable people :/ in the past before.

Starting with the stock rb30, which has quite a bit of torque and power. Then welding the diff.....

Aussie ones don't have IRS, the suspension is pretty crap on them, the RB30 is OK I guess but pretty gutless in my opinion. Not an ideal candidate as a drift car. The Jap spec ones on the other hand have a bit more potential (specifically the coupes)

R32 is a whole different (and better) world worth every cent over a aussie R31.....

You won't find jack shit for $1k either btw.

Why don't you just get out to a skid pan day in the R33, your chances are very slim to none of bending the car if you don't act like a wanker. Very hard to do damage to your car unless you're trying hard to over do it. Helps you get a feel for the car and will let you learn how to control it.

Edited by d0p3y

mate and RB30 is hardly powerful next to an RB20DET. plus you will be hard pressed to find a manual with LSD for $1K. you can do it, but it will be so far from track worthy it's not funny.

hahaha fatz knowledgable! next someone will say dirt garage is a nice bloke :ban:

I've got no idea aout r31s, except that if you don't mind a locked diff don't worry about a 20yo LSD....just weld up the centre of the axle instead :D

mate r31 is great choice for thrashing

1stly as you said you can smash it and bash it out with a hammer

2ndly you get plenty of women...

locked diff in a r31 is a winner. yes it does not have irs but thats also the advantage to having live axle locked up with rb30e. slides so easily.

as for your question : "Does the stock rb30 powered aussie 31 drift alright?"

look here for your answer

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http://kero.drifthost.com/videos/marks4doo...1.DriftLand.wmv - 8.2 meg from very quick server

that's pete (fatz) driving my r31. stock rb30e engine, shitty 2 1/4" tip. and diff locked up. suspension was very very very used koni shocks which were in their 4th car by the time they made it into my car. not bad for a stocker me thinks.

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also here are some in car videos of the car being drifted at wakefield.

http://kero.drifthost.com/videos/marks4doo...eld.Park.01.wmv

http://kero.drifthost.com/videos/marks4doo...eld.Park.02.wmv

http://kero.drifthost.com/videos/marks4doo...eld.Park.03.wmv (once again all hosted on very quick server)

and this video will give u idea of how much an rb30e can take - about 4+ minutes sitting on the brakes in 1st gear ripping a burnout at wsid (shithouse burnout in the end i know!!)

http://kero.drifthost.com/videos/Mark.D.Th...ws.Radiator.wmv

i still own this car. it is a 1988 R31 Silhouette. From the outside, the only mods I have done are Series 3 conversion (means round taillights at rear, and sloped headlights at front with different grille, bumper and bonnet). and it IS FOR SALE. it has had the rb30det taken out of it (putting it into my old hr31 coupe).

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inside it has full 6 point roll cage and stripped interior. roll cage has since been painted black so that it's not visible from outside. roll cage has made the car stiff which is a winner for the track - rigidity of it plus the locked diff makes it go around corners a dream.

pics below of cage (note - doors have trims on them now) - pics are of when car got stuff installed hence messy in pics.

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cage was designed so u can fit wheels in the back seat still.

looks plain on outside so you never attract any interest. but good on inside. very light.

car comes with some wheels and tyres. about 12-16 in fact. sets or pairs.

heres's some of em

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to make car handle even better you simply install s13 struts and control arm into front. you can then go s13 coilovers in front if you so desire. they also fit in rear too. other shit can be bolted in also etc.

anyway thats about all for now. car is nsw registered. rego until 31/07/06. if interested let me know.

cheers, mark

Aussie ones don't have IRS, the suspension is pretty crap on them, the RB30 is OK I guess but pretty gutless in my opinion. Not an ideal candidate as a drift car. The Jap spec ones on the other hand have a bit more potential (specifically the coupes)

R32 is a whole different (and better) world worth every cent over a aussie R31.....

You won't find jack shit for $1k either btw.

Why don't you just get out to a skid pan day in the R33, your chances are very slim to none of bending the car if you don't act like a wanker. Very hard to do damage to your car unless you're trying hard to over do it. Helps you get a feel for the car and will let you learn how to control it.

I've had my car out at skiddies, and oran part north circuit a few times. It goes alright considering it only has the stock Vspec diff and no mech diff.

I'm just too worried about bending panels, especially at OP. I'm too worried to commit enough into the drift and too worried to drift at higher speeds etc. It's pretty scary when you spin out too, because i find that people drive pretty close together. There ahve been a few occassions where the person behind has almost hit me after I spun out

Edited by 97r33gtst-typeM

88, thanks for the offer mate, but a cage is a bit too hardcore for me. I was sorta looking for somethign that the cops won't hassle me about. e.g. after welding the diff, I might need to test it (on private roads) etc.

Is it possible to weld a diff if it isn't an lsd?

seriously if you want to do some drift or circuit in a cheap 31 then marks car is the go. it already has some cash thrown at it to make it the best little 31 it can be. it has full cams approved (i think) roll cage which would make a huge difference to the way it handles. plus comes with heaps of rims and tyres, and a welded diff. what more could you ask for.

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