The Plan ...190RWKW

[Lozza150]

Hey guy's what did/have you modified on your skyline's to achieve safe reliable 190-200 RWKW..??

was it worth it, and did it cost you much in the end.

New or second hand products...??

Cheers

Loz

[predator]

good cooler, 12psi, S-AFC (or equivalent, or A/F ratio modified ECU), decent intake filter, good straight thru exhaust, 98RON fuel should do it on most R33 skylines

[dabigbolf]

what sort of time do they produce in the r33. i am having a similar setup in my S13 silvia, which is much lighter than the r33.

[dojobi]

I reckon you'll need full engine management to get up to the 190-200rwkw mark (non shootout mode that is). To get that kind of power without major mods to the engine, you'll need to push the turbo hard. I've only got 177rwkw with most of the mods below, but I'm just using a SAFC and a bleeder.

So you'd probably need something like the following:

Big FMIC

14psi using an EBC

Full exhaust

Power FC (or other full computer)

CAI with a pod filter, or a really good panel filter which may not be possible with a FMIC)

possibly an adjustable ex cam gear - although I feel it hurt my bottom end too much.

Feel free to correct me anyone

[dojobi]

Also make sure you go to a good tuner. If you can't quite meet your kilowatt target, don't push it too hard. You'll be hard pressed to notice the difference between 195rwkw and 200rwkw. I'd take a safe 195rwkw engine over a 200rwkw hand grenade engine with really lean AF ratios.

[slayer_1971]

Hi.....

With the following mods.

- APEXI S-AFC

- Electronic Boost Controller (set to .8 bar)

- HKS CAT Back Exhaust

- Pod Filter

My car recently dynoed 188rwKw (this was in shootout mode though).............

The S-AFC I purchased for $400 from someone on this forum and the boost controller I got for $200 on EBAY.

My next upgrade will be the rest of the exhaust.....

[Edge]

slayer_1971

what rwkw do you get in normal mode?

Do you always have it at .8 bar for daily driving?

[slayer_1971]

Before I had the boost controller installed I had the car dynoed and in non shootout mode acheived 147rwKW running standard boost....though it should be noted that the day was stinking hot - 40 degrees which didn't help....

I've only had the boost controller for a few weeks but normally just drive around with the boost set to standard.

[Edge]

thanks

[benm]

Im not sure of the difference between standard and shootout mode but im guessing their is a small difference.

Anyhow in shootout mode:

191rwkw

12psi

FMIC

HKS Pod Filter

Cat-back 3" Exhaust

Std Turbo

Std ECU

98 Octane Optimax

203rwkw (36c heat)- (186rwkw @ 7psi)

12psi

FMIC

HKS Pod Filter

3" Full Exhaust

Std Turbo

Std ECU

98 OCtane Optimax

New oil

http://skylines.pnc.com.au.dyno-203rwkw.jpg

Not bad but im confident i can get it up to 210rwkw with the Std Turbo + ECU.

[predator]

With the recent SAU dyno day in melbourne there were a few R33 at around 180rwkw and above and that was a pretty hot and humid day.

Mine pushed 183 (and wasn't running too great), inasnt: 185, and I think it was west (who's car is currently for sale btw) pushed 190 at the rear wheels - all with standard turbos.

Its quite achieveable, and bolt on a bigger turbo and you be able to get upwards of 230rwkw without touching the insides.

[Lozza150]

Thanks guy's..... how's thge weather for the F1 today....

did you guy's notice that the ford rear wing's look similar to the GTR wing...

[Lozza150]

Thanks guy's..... how's thge weather for the F1 today....

did you guy's notice that the ford rear wing's look similar to the GTR wing...

[dojobi]

Shootout mode is meant to be used to compare figures between cars. It locks the roller ramp rate, and it can't be modified at all, so you can be sure that any car measured with it can have its power accurately compared with any other one tested with it.

Now, from what I've heard, it adds around 10% to what you would normally get on a properly set up dyno, so 203kw really is around 184kw (A damn good result considering you've got a stock ECU, benm). That said, you can't really just take off the 10% extra to compare with people run in non-shootout mode, as this opens you up to differences in how the non-shootout mode dyno was set up.

So, if you want to compare figures use shootout mode, but be aware that the figures are inflated.

Cheers,

Michael

[Edge]

benm

Which FMIC have you got?

did you have to modify the afm sensor reading?

what kind boost controller are you using, does it have single or two stage boost, and what rpm does the 12psi come full boost?

[Tosh]

why stop @ 200 rwkw's?????

heheheheh

[benm]

The car came with a Micks Metalcrafts 'bar n plate' FMIC which i have been told has quite a thick core (Not sure on the exact measurements I had them here somewhere but lost the info).

Didn't touch the AFM

2 Stage boost controller, can't remember the brand.

Not sure when 12psi comes on but 1 of the 'Unigroup' guys on the forums here said in 4th gear on the dyno I was making 6psi @ 2,200rpm. I have no idea if thats good or bad.

Ben.