Nsw Speeding Fine Questions

[satanic]

Hi all...

My girlfriend is a self confessed speed-a-holic and over a period of 2 weeks (about a month back) she copped 3 speeding tickets from Sydney's wonderful tunnel systems (2 in the Eastern Distributor and one in the Harbour Tunnel).

The speeds broken in all three cases lie in the first two brackets.

I am not happy about this, neither is she... all the fines have now arrived and she is very upset and concerned as she did not know about it until she received the first one and I explained that yes there are cameras in all tunnels!

Anyways, the very last one she received was taken on Good Friday (Double Demerits). Total fine was $200+ and 6 points. She received this fine yesterday through snail mail - letter only, no photo or anything - I'm not very cluey with this as I've never copped anything for speeding etc. etc.

Now she is on Green Ps and is elligible for a full liscence. As of now she has 3 points... if she takes this 6 pointer she will be on negative 3 which means loss of liscence. My question is this - if she goes for her full liscence immediately, will she be in the clear as the 6 points will technically come out of her Ps and not her full (I think the points are charged to the day of the offence).

If anyone has a solution or suggestion, I'd like to hear it please... thanks in advance for your time and brainpower

Damn speed-a-holic-chicks-in-corollas-who-don't-look-out-for-speed-camera-signs!

[v_twin]

my brother did this when he was on his p's a few years back now.

exactly the same situation.

the points are only taken away once you pay the fine.. if you go for the license immediately, you *may* be able to get away with it

definately worth a try!!

[satanic]

Question is will they take the points away from the Ps or the Full Liscence....

Is this what you mean...

1) Go sit Full Liscence

2) Go pay fine

3) They take points away from Full Liscence

4) Green Ps not even considered

Thanks for your help!

[scathing]

my brother did this when he was on his p's a few years back now.

exactly the same situation.

I think they've changed the law recently, so that they consider your license at the time of the infringement rather than at the time of settlement.

Not entirely sure, so best check with the RTA.

Edited May 11, 2006 by scathing

[kimbod]

Ring Mark Stenberg at Lawstop in Hornsby. He is the best traffic law lawyer around. He got my son off 2 fines that would have taken his P's away

[sindows]

That is the case Stan,

Check RTA Website to see if these points have been put on her licence - http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/myrta/myrecords/index.html?llid=14

I was in the same situation, i got caught speeding over 6 months ago, i was advised to send the RTA letters to prolong the court appeal so i could go for my green P's but i didnt get time or money to go for them. It would have saved me quite a bit of money and time without a licence if i had done that.

Two weeks ago i was pulled over by RBT twice in 2 days and lost 2 points each time for driving a manual on an auto licence, this then put my points up to 12 on my red P licence which is only allowed 4 points and then disqualification...

[bold]FCUKING NSW RTA!!!![/bold]

Hope this info helps.

[Beer Baron]

there is only one way to find out mate. tell her to go and get her full licence now. then pay the fine, then see what happens. i think it may not work, but if it does then she will be a happy camper.

[v_twin]

Question is will they take the points away from the Ps or the Full Liscence....

Is this what you mean...

1) Go sit Full Liscence

2) Go pay fine

3) They take points away from Full Liscence

4) Green Ps not even considered

Thanks for your help!

yes..

as beer baron said. do it and see.. cant hurt

[N1GTR]

Yes Stan, as Greg and Richard both suggested, try that

I thought the RTA had a rule, that you couldnt sit for a test if you had unpaid fines???

And point out what the "Speed Camera Ahead" signs mean in the tunnels - im not being a smartass, this isnt the first time ive heard a story about the tunnel cameras, and someone NOT seeing them

Also you have just stumbled on her next Bday/anniversary/whatever present...........you can shout her to a trackday at Wakefield park - only $80 for all the speeding she wants

[sindows]

Well Said Steve!

[Moanie]

hang on... if she loses 6 points for the double dermerit offence, what about the other 6 (you said 2 other speeding tickets in the lower bracket - does that mean 3 points each there) she will also lose?! that would mean a loss of licence regardless of what she does?

or did i misread?

[silver gts-t]

Question is will they take the points away from the Ps or the Full Liscence....

Is this what you mean...

1) Go sit Full Liscence

2) Go pay fine

3) They take points away from Full Liscence

4) Green Ps not even considered

Thanks for your help!

stan i did this about 2 years ago..

worked for me..

[d0p3y]

You can try but I'd say she's going to have to cop the suspension.

That's what you get anyhow for speeding on double demerits, and speeding in the tunnels, they DO have clear signs saying there's cameras.. it's her own fault for being so reckless.

[satanic]

The two other fines were each 3 points... the Corolla is registered in her mum's name so her mum copped one at 3pts and she copped the other at 3points.

If it wasn't for the DD weekend, she'd be sweet on 0 points. But being a DD weekend, it's now a 6 point exercise.

I will advise her to do what everyone has said - clearly it has worked for some, let's hope it does for her. Otherwise I'm going to have 3 jobs; accounting, business owner and driver

THANK YOU EVERYONE - OWE YOU ALL A BEER!

[satanic]

Thanks d0p3y... I'll prepare her for that too, but as others have said, what has she got to lose.

[Beer Baron]

stan, 6 points is a suspension anyway.

btw you dont loose points, you gain points. if you are allowed up to 6 points (i thought it was 7 on green ps though?) then 5 is ok, 6 is suspension.

[D_I_F]

my advice..

Don't let her drive.. LOL!..

yea tell her to get her full licence first then take care of the fines..

[sindows]

yeah!

[v_twin]

THANK YOU EVERYONE - OWE YOU ALL A BEER!

yeah, you do!

[d0p3y]

It can't hurt to go to the RTA. You can try take the test- they either knock you back, or you end up getting the full licence. I'd pay one 3 point fine first on the P's, then go for the fulls - if they let you get the fulls pay the other 9 points worth of fines and you're left with 3 points on your full licence.

Slim chance but nothing to lose by trying it out.