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Good luck boys, you have opened a can of worms now. This is a bit of a pet passion for me.

I know plenty of low/mid income earners that are much happier than high income earner. My old man earns a ridiculous amount of money but he has no time to himself or his family...

Does being financially successful outweigh the need for a social life/family obligations in modern society?

When I was 18 I was earning pretty decent money as a staff trainer for a large call centre and the work was easy as pie. I sat there and coached people on how to do their job better, showed them around ect then I had Tyler and went to living on welfare. You know what the money is shit however I do have the time to pursue other interests, I went to Uni and studied Nursing. I have the time in my day to take care of my family, which is important to me and something I didn't have back then. I want to either be paid ungodly amounts for very little work or I want to be middle class. I want to be comfortable financially but I still want to cook a roast on Sunday afternoon, I want to have the time to do my families laundry and take Tyler to whatever extra curricula activities he decides to take part in.

I feel ya. Cost of living is insane and medical / health system here is pethetic. Went to private hospital because the wife had complications and we paid on the $300 something for that evening (stayed 3hrs only), then several weeks later we were gettin all these bills from the drs we saw. I was like WTF? What the hell did we pay on that nite for????? Was more upset with their poor administration and that we could not claim it back via Medicare. What farkin joke!!!!

Private health is a real catch 22 unles your private fund is going to cover everything. I worked at a private hospital for a bit and its crazy what you get charged for (laundering of linen ect) and do you really get any better care from the doctors or the Nursing team? Nope. The food still tastes like heated up cardboard, you still get students, the Nurses are no different and if anything as a Nurse I'd rather work Public solely because I hate pretentious pricks who feel that because they're paying for a private hospital stay that I someone how don't have just as much to do as I would on a Public ward. The ratios are no different, the pay isn't much better, we still don't get our breaks, if anything we're busier because we have KPI's to work to (have to answer call buzzers within 65 seconds ect)

The hardest thing for any Parent I would say (and it took me a long time to get this) Is the Sacrifice of quality time with the Kids now so they can have every advantage and the best of everything later.

I burn some serious hours at work and have not had a holiday where work wasn't involved some how (even my honeymoon) But it is all worth it when I get to sit down with my daughter and watch her play violin or any Sunday where I get to watch my son play Football.

Is being successful Important to me...Not really I would be happy being poor, Is it Important to me to set a good example for my kids and give them the best possible start to life....It's worth every single second of overtime and customer complaint.

I don't think kids really need everything to feel loved or cared for...if anything i believe you can give your kids TOO much. I grew up in a low socioeconomic family, I didn't get garbage bags full of toys for Christmas or Birthdays but I can tell you right now that my Mother loves me. However I believe it would have been beneficial to grow up in Melbourne.

Kids need good strong role models who can teach them right from wrong, how to respect others, your environment and yourself. As an adult I can't recall a single toy I received but I remember the time my mother spent with me. We didn't go to the cinema, but we went walking or for a drive (before fuel was 1.77 per litre). Don't get me wrong I am all for a good education, and if I was going to spend big $$$ on anything it'd be my sons health and education costs.

Kids need good strong role models who can teach them right from wrong, how to respect others, your environment and yourself. As an adult I can't recall a single toy I received but I remember the time my mother spent with me. We didn't go to the cinema, but we went walking or for a drive (before fuel was 1.77 per litre). Don't get me wrong I am all for a good education, and if I was going to spend big $$$ on anything it'd be my sons health and education costs.

And you think Tony is good for teaching right from wrong? :P

Good luck boys, you have opened a can of worms now. This is a bit of a pet passion for me.

I don't think kids really need everything to feel loved or cared for...if anything i believe you can give your kids TOO much. I grew up in a low socioeconomic family, I didn't get garbage bags full of toys for Christmas or Birthdays but I can tell you right now that my Mother loves me. However I believe it would have been beneficial to grow up in Melbourne.

Kids need good strong role models who can teach them right from wrong, how to respect others, your environment and yourself. As an adult I can't recall a single toy I received but I remember the time my mother spent with me. We didn't go to the cinema, but we went walking or for a drive (before fuel was 1.77 per litre). Don't get me wrong I am all for a good education, and if I was going to spend big $$$ on anything it'd be my sons health and education costs.

agree. the trick is to keep a happy medium between loving your children (or wife ;) ) and spoling them. As a father, I can say that I will do almost anything for my 3yo daughter and I can only imagine what I will be like when my next baby comes out in 3 months or so.

its very for me to say 'no' to my family and I will do everything for them, but somehow I know that I will need to find strenght to say 'no'.

As much as I love the thought of of been rich (not powerful) and having lots of money, I in fact hate it! Money has turned this world and humans into dispecable creatures because we are greedy in nature :verymad:

I'd rather be rich with happiness and be peniless than full of doh and being miserable.

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I live on 300 a week. 200 straight towards car payments. 50 on fuel and every fortnight I have 35 come out or gym. Sometimes it's difficult but I still have fun and still enjoy the work I do

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I live on 300 a week. 200 straight towards car payments. 50 on fuel and every fortnight I have 35 come out or gym. Sometimes it's difficult but I still have fun and still enjoy the work I do

Zac that sounds rough mate. But I'm not certain that's entirely accurate as the above would mean you have $15 left over for food, accommodation, electricity and other stuff?! I'm guessing you are still living with ur folks ;)

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Zac that sounds rough mate. But I'm not certain that's entirely accurate as the above would mean you have $15 left over for food, accommodation, electricity and other stuff?! Im guessing you are still living with ur folks ;)

raining, Friday, I am on incident response duty. ..I can feel a sewerage spill or truck rollover coming on.

Shit :P

Vodka!!!!

Scotch!

I paid more in tax last year than my wife made, I want a dole bludger as my butler for that shit.

Same. Nearly twice as much as what she earnt...

Morning all. Shitty day 2day.

At least you both have two incomes. And for you to earn more than ur wife she either got paid peanuts or as they say youre 'high income earner'. Which side of the fence do you want to be???

High income earner. No brainer for me really. Anyone who knows me will see that a mile away.

Well she was working until she got sick. I am what you would call a "high income earner" I guess. Doesn't really feel like it at the moment though medical bills really break the bank.

Some day's I would rather be on the poor side of the fence, Life was simpler and more care free before I discovered that being a responsible adult is important.

Life is simpler with minimal funds but I like money. I like what it can buy me. I've been on both sides of the fence and let me just say that living in a high rise in the middle of the CBD is wicked!

I know plenty of low/mid income earners that are much happier than high income earner. My old man earns a ridiculous amount of money but he has no time to himself or his family...

Does being financially successful outweigh the need for a social life/family obligations in modern society?

Yes.

And you think Tony is good for teaching right from wrong? :P

Probably not :P

I like working for the cash that I make and helping people when I do it. I like being seen as the guy with the answers who can get shit done. I like solving problems and making lives easier. Those that live on welfare and don't give back to society can go get F88ked.

Zac that sounds rough mate. But I'm not certain that's entirely accurate as the above would mean you have $15 left over for food, accommodation, electricity and other stuff?! I'm guessing you are still living with ur folks ;)

18 apprentice mechanic :P you bet I'm living at home still

I work hard, but I work from home. It is a blessing and a curse.

I travel a lot. I drive 40thousand kms a year for work, but I'm on a flight every week. It can be tiring, but I find it enjoyable.

I like to be social, but I like to do my own thing. Can you say extroverted Hermit?

I guess for me, money is not the only thing, but it does help you get nice things. I turned down a job offer that would have seen me an extra $2500 a month as long term it wasn't suitable for me and my family. The clincher with earning big, is that there is the expectation to be working big also.

I think the happy medium is when you and your loved ones are happy and spend enough quality time together, yet are able to do things that you would like to do.

Also, if your job permits, make sure you take advantage of the ability to claim things at tax time. Get an accountant who knows his stuff. It will help you out big time.

I work hard, but I work from home. It is a blessing and a curse.

I travel a lot. I drive 40thousand kms a year for work, but I'm on a flight every week. It can be tiring, but I find it enjoyable.

I like to be social, but I like to do my own thing. Can you say extroverted Hermit?

I guess for me, money is not the only thing, but it does help you get nice things. I turned down a job offer that would have seen me an extra $2500 a month as long term it wasn't suitable for me and my family. The clincher with earning big, is that there is the expectation to be working big also.

I think the happy medium is when you and your loved ones are happy and spend enough quality time together, yet are able to do things that you would like to do.

Also, if your job permits, make sure you take advantage of the ability to claim things at tax time. Get an accountant who knows his stuff. It will help you out big time.

I like that bit ^ Scott. Thats why I work as a Chartered accountant ;)

your'e a recruiter? well I'l be damned..........thought u were zee IT guru........ok I chat wid you tomorow :turned:

I can spell IT and that's about it. Accounting Recruitment and Management Consulting specialising in CA firms :)

How far is the GT-R from completion?

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