Stagea Suspension Question?

[JZA80_1998]

Hi

just want to know is Stagea suspension same as R33GTST or R34GTT??

any information will help

Thanks

[AMS]

Taken form the first post in the suspension thread:

The front shocks look to be the same as R33 GTR, as is the rest of the front suspension

The rear shocks look to be the same as R33 GTST

[fergo308]

agreed. front shocks are R33 GTR,the rear is S14/S15/R33 GTST.

sway bars ARE R33 GTR FRONT AND REAR. do NOT let someone sell you an S14/S15/33 GTST rear bar,as it will NOT line up with the D brackets on the rear subframe.

front radius rods are R33 GTR,and aftermarket S14/S15/33GTST rods will NOT fit,they'll foul on the sway bar links.

rear subframe collars will bolt straight in.

this is all from my personal experience on my own car.

Justin...

[michaeljquinn]

agreed. front shocks are R33 GTR,the rear is S14/S15/R33 GTST.

sway bars ARE R33 GTR FRONT AND REAR. do NOT let someone sell you an S14/S15/33 GTST rear bar,as it will NOT line up with the D brackets on the rear subframe.

front radius rods are R33 GTR,and aftermarket S14/S15/33GTST rods will NOT fit,they'll foul on the sway bar links.

rear subframe collars will bolt straight in.

this is all from my personal experience on my own car.

Justin...

look at the sticky suspension thread

[JZA80_1998]

how about the spring?

Stagea same as GTR/GTST 33/34??

[EGA41T]

have a read mate, im sure the question has been answered

Stagea Suspension

[fergo308]

look at the sticky suspension thread

I have previously,and found some of the information contained in it to be wrong,particularly the sway bar part numbers listed for whiteline components.

I learned this the hard way by ordering them myself based on Sk's listing,and then finding that they didn't fit,and had to then return them,pay a re-packaging fee,and wait a further week for my sway bars.

I can provide the part numbers of the bars I have fitted to my series 2,as well as photos of how they bolted in to compare to the photos in that thread of how the wrong parts have to butchered to make them fit at a later date if you require them.

Justin...

[oxford1327]

I have previously,and found some of the information contained in it to be wrong,particularly the sway bar part numbers listed for whiteline components.

I learned this the hard way by ordering them myself based on Sk's listing,and then finding that they didn't fit,and had to then return them,pay a re-packaging fee,and wait a further week for my sway bars.

I can provide the part numbers of the bars I have fitted to my series 2,as well as photos of how they bolted in to compare to the photos in that thread of how the wrong parts have to butchered to make them fit at a later date if you require them.

Justin...

heya justin i would be very keen to get those part numbers from you as i have just ordered a set of bars and would like to know if they are gonna fit my S2?

Edited May 31, 2006 by oxford1327

[Sydneykid]

Let's start off with ................. this is the original picture of the stabiliser bar boxes from the Stagea Suspension thread showing the part numbers that I used on my Stagea (there is no difference in suspension between S1 and S2 that I have seen).

Secondly as per the current Whiteline catalogue the part number for an adjustable R33GTR rear bar is BNR11XZ (heavy duty = 22 mm) and BNR11XXZ (extra heavy duty = 24 mm)

Keeping the above in mind;

B = Bar

N = Nissan

11 = shape

X = heavy duty

XX == extra heavy duty

Z = adjustable

If you look at the picture of the stabiliser bar boxes you can see I used BNR11XZ. That was 2004, since then I have upgraded to BNR11XXZ as I felt it needed the extra rear antiroll.

SO I don't see where or why Justion had a problem with the part numbers based on the Stagea Suspension thread.

If anyone would like to look under my Stagea and make sure that I haven't butchered anything please feel free to do so. You will quickly see that the stabiliser bars fit perfectly.

Whiteline did make a mistake with the manufacture of a couple of Stagea rear bars where the U bend was made to the internal dimensions instead of the external dimensions. Perhaps Justin was affected by that, but the stabiliser bar part numbers in the Stagea Suspension thread are correct and always have been correct.

cheers

Edited May 31, 2006 by Sydneykid

[oxford1327]

k thanks for clearing that up i will see what part numbers they have ordered for me.

oxford

[fergo308]

Let's start off with ................. this is the original picture of the stabiliser bar boxes from the Stagea Suspension thread showing the part numbers that I used on my Stagea (there is no difference in suspension between S1 and S2 that I have seen).

Secondly as per the current Whiteline catalogue the part number for an adjustable R33GTR rear bar is BNR11XZ (heavy duty = 22 mm) and BNR11XXZ (extra heavy duty = 24 mm)

If you look at the picture of the stabiliser bar boxes you can see I used BNR11XZ. That was 2004, since then I have upgraded to BNR11XXZ as I felt it needed the extra rear antiroll.

SO I don't see where or why Justin had a problem with the part numbers based on the Stagea Suspension thread.

If anyone would like to look under my Stagea and make sure that I haven't butchered anything please feel free to do so. You will quickly see that the stabiliser bars fit perfectly.

Whiteline did make a mistake with the manufacture of a couple of Stagea rear bars where the U bend was made to the internal dimensions instead of the external dimensions. Perhaps Justin was affected by that, but the stabiliser bar part numbers in the Stagea Suspension thread are correct and always have been correct.

cheers

well,since whiteline have altered their S14/33 GTSt rear bar,changing the width of the straight section,it's now quite possible that they will fit on,where the ones I bought back at the beginning of this year did not,necessitating the re-packaging and swap for the correct part,as they were approx. 20mm too narrow between the radii,which prevented the front D brackets from being fitted.

in the suspension thread that I read earlier in the year the pictures of your first rear bar showed that the links had been filed out to offset the bolt holes,and that the D bush was sitting halfway around the radius on the bar,which to me,is not fitting up perfectly.

now,I bought bars based on that photo,using those part numbers,and they didn't fit. the front was fine,as I said above,but the rear did NOT line up with the front mounting brackets at all,and wasn't all that close to the control arm mounting points either.

I'd like to see a photo of under your car,and when I'm back at home on the weekend and have access to my digital camera,and my own PC,as well as the receipt from the suspension place that sold me the bars so I can give you the part numbers of the rear bar thatdoes bolt straight on,I'll post up my own information,and we can compare notes.

Justin...

Edited May 31, 2006 by fergo308

[Sydneykid]

well,since whiteline have altered their S14/33 GTSt rear bar,changing the width of the straight section,it's now quite possible that they will fit on,where the ones I bought back at the beginning of this year did not,necessitating the re-packaging and swap for the correct part,as they were approx. 20mm too narrow between the radii,which prevented the front D brackets from being fitted.

in the suspension thread that I read earlier in the year the pictures of your first rear bar showed that the links had been filed out to offset the bolt holes,and that the D bush was sitting halfway around the radius on the bar,which to me,is not fitting up perfectly.

now,I bought bars based on that photo,using those part numbers,and they didn't fit. the front was fine,as I said above,but the rear did NOT line up with the front mounting brackets at all,and wasn't all that close to the control arm mounting points either.

I'd like to see a photo of under your car,and when I'm back at home on the weekend and have access to my digital camera,and my own PC,as well as the receipt from the suspension place that sold me the bars so I can give you the part numbers of the rear bar thatdoes bolt straight on,I'll post up my own information,and we can compare notes.

Justin...

Hi Justin, I believe that you may well be confusing someone elses pictures. I never filed anything. I most certainly wouldn't fit the D bush half way around the bend. And I definitely would not suggest that anyone do either of those things.

As I said in the previous post, there were some Whiteline stabiliser bars made incorrectly. The bending machine was programmed for the outside diameter of the U bend instead of the inside diameter. Hence making the U bend too narrow. This was picked up by a couple of the Stagea Group Buy guys and I arranged with Whiteline for their bars to be replaced free of charge.

There was never a part number change, the rear Stagea bar has always been BNR11 (X, XX , Z, XZ or XXZ).

My guess, is the suspension shop that you bought them from may not know the correct story.

cheers