Pod Enclosure With Cai Design

[my_gtr32]

Yes maybe? But what if you modify the standard airbox and fit a CAI onto it plus a high flowing Apexi panel filter ?

That's excatly what I have been doing on a gtr. I currently have apexi pods (like that when I bought it), but no CAI. I have been messing around with varrious designs to at least, partition the pods and feed cold air from the air ducts built into the front bar.

Not happy with the products available plus the cost of some, what I did was modify the standard snorkel that takes air from behind the headlight, and fit a 90mm pipe to where the ressonator box usualy connects on the snorkel, and position it behind the air duct in the front bar.

Looks totally standard, is very well sealed as it's using the factory air-box, and it works.

Now I'm going to utillise the resonator container and the windscreen washer bottle for a intercooler water spray set-up I've been working on.

I can post pics soon as I'm going to remove the front bar for some other mods

Exactly Paul! As if a custom 3" CAI with a fully sealed POD enclosure isnt going to give you a much better air flow/suction then the standard box! Of coarse it will...

Edited June 2, 2006 by my_gtr32

[PHATR32]

what we need is a cheap sheild for twin pods for the r32 GTR!!!

god dam it does anyone have a template!

Steve

[my_gtr32]

Yes I have a template of sorts. I was going to partition the pods and use the bonnet as the seal for the top. It would have looked at bit 'home made' as I'm no expert using sheet metal. In the end I decided to use the standard airbox idea.

what we need is a cheap sheild for twin pods for the r32 GTR!!!

god dam it does anyone have a template!

Steve

[BezerkR32]

Like i said, what you do in your own car is your business, I wont be fabricating pvc intakes for any of my customers cars, wouldnt say alot about the quality of my work, either would i be fitting bleed valves. If you are nieve enough to think that a bleed valve is as effective as a EBC or chineses intercooler as efficient as a PWR or Hyperflow Or even Genuine GTR core then you have alot to learn. These intakes are custom made, not a brand name, and over $100 cheaper. yuo fit your drain pipe if you want, but dont talk down better quality parts due to the price. You get what you pay for as in everything in life.

To answer your comment, products such as intercoolers, CAI, bleed valves are all non mechanical and non electrical devices.. How can you justify spending the extra $$$ for the a near identical product that does the same job??? Fair enough the name brands might be bit more appealing in appearance but to compare a CAI costing $50 or spending $300 on a name brand and both do the same job is not logical.. and might i add there is nothing wrong with those $400 FMIC kits and $22 boost controllers..

Cheers

[mad082]

i can't justify spending hundreds of dollars on an electronic boost controller unless i was running high boost where a bleed valve wouldn't hold it. if it is only small boost changes then an electronic boost controller works out at quite a few hundred dollars more for maybe 5hp more. for the same money you could buy a bleed valve and a piggy back computer and make over 20hp more.

not everyone has thousands of dollars to spend on the top of the line products.

[BezerkR32]

Like i said, and ill repeat, what you put on your own car is your business, im trying to advise people on the best way to do the job, its then up to them on what they decide. Im sorry if ive hit a raw nerve, but this is what i do for a living and the advise im giving is to help others, and given only when i know that it is correct.

I dont comment on things im not sure about as not to give poor or incorrect advise. Just like saying that you only need a EBC if you are running high boost. I know thats bullshit.

Here's your next custom PVC CAI boys'n'girls!

[mad082]

don't want to start a war here, but all i was saying with the EBC comment was that at low boost use, like 1 or 2psi above the wastegate pressure, there is little to be gained for the extra ~$500. if you are running 18psi then there would be a lot to be gained for the extra money.

Edited June 2, 2006 by mad082

[2rismo]

don't want to start a war here, but all i was saying with the EBC comment was that at low boost use, like 1 or 2psi above the wastegate pressure, there is little to be gained for the extra ~$500. if you are running 18psi then there would be a lot to be gained for the extra money.

Little to gain? How about avoiding a costly rebuild potentially costing thousands of dollars by having an EBC for your low boost application. No spiking on ebc's PARTICULARLY on low boost. I have never ever ever run more than 1.0bar on my stocker - I just can't afford the re-build.

Adrian

[mad082]

i hear more about EBC's stuffing up, or being stuffed from the word go than bleed valves. one guy with a BEC had a post on here where it was boosting normal in first then 42psi in second. i call that a big stuff up, and a possible cause of serious damage. don't hear much of that happening on bleed valves. the more complicated something is, the more chance of something going wrong.

[2rismo]

i hear more about EBC's stuffing up, or being stuffed from the word go than bleed valves. one guy with a BEC had a post on here where it was boosting normal in first then 42psi in second. i call that a big stuff up, and a possible cause of serious damage. don't hear much of that happening on bleed valves. the more complicated something is, the more chance of something going wrong.

You're nothing if not entertaining, mate.

[QRI05E]

Take it easy fellas... All Madz is trying to say, that for a stock/light modified car, a manual boost controller will be more then enough to give you the boost level required. Therefore the money saved from buying an EBC you can put it toward an aftermarket ECU which has much more power gain potential... It all comes down to your power goal and application... anything up to 200rw/kw from a R33 a manual boost controller is more then enough as long as its tuned well...

Back to the topic... My belief is if the design and construction of the CAI system is hi flowing and seals the POD from the hot air in the engine bay, it will do as good of a job as the $300 setups... How do you think all those performance CAI systems were made?? All by trial and error in some ones garage till they found the best design and put it into production and that’s why the consumer pays so much due to all the time, effort, materials, labeling, packaging and marketing behind the product… Just because something is home made does not make it a poorer quality or 'bodgy'.. Just check out the DIY section.. there are hundreds of threads which will save you $$$ by Doing It Yourself...

Cheers

[QRI05E]

I would appretiate all your ideas guys on different CAI setups in a R33... keep them comming!

[R31Nismoid]

You're nothing if not entertaining, mate.

i concur

stay on topic will you all, even if i've never used an EBC in my life and think they are a waste of $$$ in certain applications

[R33S2]

Berzerkr32

I happen to want to hear this information, not everyone on here has a $17,000 car, some are track cars put together on a shoe string, with high damage risk and they would rather replace a piece of 50c pvc than a $300 bling bit, your comments are valid but not for all of us.

[Trooper]

Like i said, and ill repeat, what you put on your own car is your business, im trying to advise people on the best way to do the job, its then up to them on what they decide. Im sorry if ive hit a raw nerve, but this is what i do for a living and the advise im giving is to help others, and given only when i know that it is correct.

I dont comment on things im not sure about as not to give poor or incorrect advise. Just like saying that you only need a EBC if you are running high boost. I know thats bullshit.

Here's your next custom PVC CAI boys'n'girls!

Haha piss funny pic.... not really what im after either

[QRI05E]

Just a quick question... Would an R32 GTSt Stock air filter box fit into an R33?? Because the R32 uses the lid section to mount the AFM therefore allowing a cold air feed from the bottom half same design on the N14 and N15 Pulsars... Unlike the R33 factory box design the air flow come from the lid…

Cheers

[Color_Of_Green]

I dont see the point in fabricating some custom CAI and pod filter for some 200rwkw application when the stock air box with K&N filter should be more than fine.

Also consider that if you were buying a car and had a choice of two, would you pick the one with "custom" PVC in the engine bay or the other one?

On a brighter note, have a manual boost controller / bleed valve (I believe) is fine in my books for such a small application.

[QRI05E]

Hey Luke, I agree and would LOVE to keep my stock air box, however when the FMIC is fitted the factory snorkel won’t fit anymore due to the crossover pipe... I read a thread on modifying the snorkel to fit but all that’s doing is reducing the air flow capacity… So a enclosed POD with CAI is the best step… besides you can so easily put the factory box back on with no dramas…

Would the R32 GTSt Stock air filter box fit into an R33??

Cheers

[BezerkR32]

If you run the staqndard intercooler piping, you would not have to modify the air box.

Hey Luke, I agree and would LOVE to keep my stock air box, however when the FMIC is fitted the factory snorkel won’t fit anymore due to the crossover pipe... I read a thread on modifying the snorkel to fit but all that’s doing is reducing the air flow capacity… So a enclosed POD with CAI is the best step… besides you can so easily put the factory box back on with no dramas…

Would the R32 GTSt Stock air filter box fit into an R33??

Cheers

[mad082]

but he isn't running the stock piping. he has, or is getting a front mount with the piping running along the top of the radiator.