Anyone driven a supra??

[Guest Oz Elitesport]

Had a drive in a N/A supra today. Thought it went fairly hard, liked the interior, but thought the sitting position sucked.

I luv my R33 Gts25t, but would be interested in hearing comments from people that have driven the twin turbo version or dragged one of them.

Does a gts25t have any chance against one of these (both stock)? What 1/4 mile times do they run?

Oz

[Guest 97GS-TSPyder]

I drove the US spec TT Supra...bad ass balls to the wall man...thats all im gona say about tthat..

[Ash]

yeah i drove an auto one! pretty sick

[400HP]

I've driven an NA Supra.... it goes alright. I personally don't like the interior that much. I've also been driven in a 200rwkw RZ Supra... that was a very tuff car.

I would say a stock 33 GTS-T would easily beat a Supra. My friends Supra and another friend's 32 GTS-T are about evenly matched.

[KamikazeR33]

Originally posted by 400HP

I would say a stock 33 GTS-T would easily beat a Supra. My friends Supra and another friend's 32 GTS-T are about evenly matched.

TT supra u mean? or n/a?

[400HP]

I would say a stock 33 GTS-T would easily beat a Supra. My friends Supra and another friend's 32 GTS-T are about evenly matched.

Sorry I meant NA. There's no way a stock GTS-T would keep up with a TT Supra.

[Guest 97GS-TSPyder]

i want an r34 US Sucks

[inark]

yes..... yes it does

[Guest 97GS-TSPyder]

But im trying to get one within the next 2 years!!

[inark]

hope u do! nothing like a skyline

[Guest 97GS-TSPyder]

im in the AF in august and im goign to JApan.....but i have a thread out there in the forum and im looking for help on what i gotta do to make it legal

[inark]

no idea what the rules are in the US... obviously tight

[Guest 97GS-TSPyder]

in cali...i want to get it imported into New York..they arent as stringent

[inark]

i dont know what the rules are there anywhere in the US.

dont know any of the procedures... if u have to own it in another country before u can bring it in or what.

im going to Japan to live for a year or so cause i want to bring in a modified R32 GTR or R34 GTT... leaning more towards the GTR

should have it on the rd here in AUS by the time im 24 hopefully.

[400HP]

in cali...i want to get it imported into New York..they arent as stringent

I've heard many times the only way to get a skyline in the states is through Motorex.

[Guest 97GS-TSPyder]

yeah but the Air force wil ship if back for free..i just gotta make it emissions legal...thats whay you pay for throiugh motorex, shipping and emissions regulations.....and like i say i refuse to pay 95 grand for a car i can get for 20

[franks]

get an RZ supra with a t51r turbo kit!

i bought a skyline cause it has a decent back seat. i'd seriously consider the supra if straight line speed is what your after and convenience was not a concern - because they seriously haul a55.

my experience with driving an RZ supra was that it was driving me rather than me driving it? ie. it didn't really feel as though i had complete control of the car...and this wasn't because i was sitting on the redline lighting up the rear wheels.

[UR2EZ]

its coz u cant drive franks

[teka]

I've had a run in with a TT Supra, I was borrowing my brother GTR at the time, I got a good start with only all four paws slipping ever so slightly, got to say through in gear I have not had somthing that close, still a few car lengths behind, it was definatly modded up, as is the GTR

[CNG]

Hi all, just thought I wouls share my views on this topic.

I have been in the fortunate position to have owned and driven both the Supra (RZ TT 6sp) and the Skyline (R32 GTR).

I guess when choosing between the two, it really depends on how you get your thrills. The Supra and the Skyline are two completely different cars in how they react given certain situations.

I still remember the awesome grip offered by ATESSA during Hi RPM getaways. That is something that the Supra will never do efficiently - get away from a standing start quickly. Sure it has Traction control, but it is useless as it cuts engine power so much.

You learn to turn it off when you get into the car.

However, rolling starts are a completely different story - the torque differences between the 2JZ and the RB26 are just like night and day - you can definately feel that extra torque, and in a rolling start, stock GTR's better watch out! This aspect makes driving around town a whole lot easier for those lazy to stir the 'box alot. The boost also arrives a hell of a lot earlier - 1000 Rpm or so earlier due to the sequential turbos of the Supra. Again power at low Rpms does help around town, which is where most people are going to be driving their cars around anyway.

I cant compare the handling too objectively, as my Supra now has the full JIC coilover treatment, bigger 17" wheels, and better rubber than the Skyline, whereas the skyline was a bog stocker, but even so, I felt that the Skyline hid its porcine weight a lot better than the Supra does. The Skylines handling is sharp and once you get used to ATESSA (on the GTR) quite enjoyable to drive. It does suffer a little from power understeer in certain situations though in stock form - something im sure could be dialed out of the car with some suspension upgrades.

The supra however, currently is very direct and handles like the go-karts I race. Good point in and very little body roll. Again - its not the standard suspension, which I suspect will be softer and more compliant, which will definately not help its cause around corners due to its weight! The supra is a large heavy car, and it never lets you forget that it is really. You feel you have prescence on the road, but I find that its driving position and design of the car makes it hard to see out of and over the bonnet. It isnt because I'm height challenged either, but more to do with the sitting position. To generalise away from what I drive now though, I would say it offers less feedback and certainly a vague feeling of precisely where you are going than the skyline does.

The supra's RWD really allows you to have quite awesome fun though - especially in the wet (in an off-road controlled environment! ). You can get the Dorifto you know that you have always wanted (come on, you all know you want it!) very easily due to the low RPM torque characteristics of the engine, or you can light up the rear bags for as long as you want, if thats your thing!

From an aesthetic point of view however, I have to say that a properly sorted Supra certainly looks the goods and would shat all over the R32 in this department - even if it is only a N/A . It certainly doesn't take a whole lot to tart up a Supra - bodykits are a plenty! As was previously mentioned before though, rear seat room is a joke in the Supra. I have a Recaro drivers seat in my Supra, and that negates the possibility of anything except a dog in the back seat behind me. Thing is, even if you could get enough legroom in the back for someone, they better be a dwarf, as the low glass hatch is going to give you some headaches (as you bash into it multiple times) for two people however, it is comfortable and has good legroom. The skyline however is the car to have if you want the flexibility of having the ability to carry 4 people in reasonable comfort. For me, the skyline wins, as I cannot recall how many times I have had to leave people stranded for only having 2 seats in the car.

Personally, I think that the cokpit design for both cars is pretty ordinary (its better in the R33). The Supra designers were on drugs when they did the design, as it seems their brief was to use as much of the interior space on the dash as possible - as such the dash posesses way too much space for all the buttons, and you get heaps of space between all the functions required - hello plastic city. The R32 design is sound, but hey, these cars are getting old, and they are starting to look that way too - but let me add that in my opinion, its certainly better that the Supra.

Side point => Best dash, cokpit, and seating design ever - S6,7,8 RX7 (but dont get me started on that car as well....)

To conclude - whichever car you decide to get really depends on what you are after. If you are into the looks side of things (ahem....a rice boi), I'd say that there is no better place to start than with a Supra. Buy a updated 96+ model with the bigger brakes, new dash, and grey taillights, then wack your choice of body mods onto that. I'm sure you wont be dissapointed. Dont forget, the US Supra scene is HUGE (much bigger than anywhere else in the world I think) so parts and support would be much easier to obtain. Nothing quite so frustrating as waiting a week for a part from Japan to get your car back on the road.

However, if you are more of a driver, and enjoy a challenge, then I'd have to say buy a R33 GTS-t and extract the performance out of that - it has a good engine and suspension, its RWD , and quite restricted from the factory. If properly modified, you may be able to keep up with some of the BPU Supra TT's in the States. Dont forget though, R33's are rarer over there, so I would guess you would stand out a whole lot more (than say here in Sydney).

So decide what you want out of your car and choose appropriately!

Hope this long a$$ reply can help you out - let me know if there is any other aspects that I havent covered sufficiently as I'm more than happy to help out with some information.

Cya,

Chris