Turbo Upgrade

[bigg_d]

Ive just bought a 700hp rated turbo for my r33. its a garrett 3582R or sumthing along those lines. it isnt a 3540 i know that for sure. But i need to replace the factory ECU before i put it in. What one would be suitable for my RB25 ?? At this stage, all it will have is the bigger turbo, a front mount, and what ever ECU i choose. I will run it at about 16pound to be safe. Ive been told to buy a wolf 3D plug in for $1600. Any other suggestions ????

[zaffa]

power fc

[bigg_d]

how much could i get a power fc installed for?? do u recon they'd be most suitable for me ?

[zaffa]

It all depends on what you plan to with the car in the future...thats a fairly large turbo...what other mods have you got to support it ie, injectors, fuel pump etc... Power fc is probably the best if your going to get your best performance with mods however if your just going to have a couple of light mods fmic bov zoorst etc then maybe get a piggyback..

[bigg_d]

its a 97 m spec strait off the ship from jap, ive put a 3" zorst (from cat back i think), boost control, trust BOV, HKS air pod.. at the moment all i want is more power and boost, in future ill go manifold, external wastegate, injectors, fuel pump, but right now all i want is to put my turbo on with a good computer to run it. and ill put a front mount on aswell. i want a hand controller aswell.. do u recon apexi power fc will do the trick and back up later down the track when i put the other mods on ?

[zaffa]

Yes power fc is your best bet mate as it is very tunable and can be tuned again at a later date when you plan to do more upgrades. If you like i can get you a price on one? As for tuning costs it all depends on where you go!

[bigg_d]

yeahhh champ that'd be good.. get a price on how much it'l be fitted aswell, if your supplier fits it aswell..

im on the sunshine coast.. but can travel if the price is worth it

[zaffa]

You have pm mate

[paulr33]

why you did you choose 16psi? what power do you want to make?

there are a lot of modifications you will need to effectively use that turbocharger. why fit a 700hp turbo if you only want 350hp?

[bigg_d]

im not very experienced with turbo cars, this is my 1st import. i was told it was a good turbo. how much boost could i run safely with that turbo without doing the internals or putting a larger fuel pump and injectors in?? I want to put those extra mods on later down the track when i save up a little more. Will it be alot quicker than a stocko skyline if i put the turbo, power fc, and a front mount on or wont it make much difference???

[paulr33]

a well setup skyline on the stock turbo would blow away your car with a pfc that turbo and an intercooler

average power makes a car fast

not a big turbo. its a good turbo? based on what? what do you want out of the turbo? do you want lag? do you want quick response? do you want max power? do you want a good street car? do you want to win dyno comps and nothing else?

what do you want to do with the car? what do you expect?

only then can someone say its a good or bad turbocharger or recommend one that is suitable. also a power goal will give you the answer you need

[GTshortie]

700hp turbo running 16psi/pounds is alot of power my guess is you'll be making power around 230rwkw-300rwkw.

BUT your biggest problems is you don't have supporting mods to run that kind of power with your current setup.

My guess guys correct me if i'm wrong

Stock Fuel Pump (good for 200rwkw?)

Stock Injectors (good for 220rwkw?)

if i were in your shoes get the fuel pump and injectors done or else your engine will go BOOM! running 16psi on a 700hp turbo on stock fuel pump and injectors NOT a good idea.

OR if your really tight for funds get the front mount on, get the turbo on and RUN the lowest possible boost setting in the meantime until you can afford a fuel pump/injectors/metal head gasket. aim to tune the car for around the 200rwkw mark.

[zaffa]

Yes this is what i've explained to Dane. He wont be able to effectively use the turbo with out supporting mods however once there in it will be an animal.

[paulr33]

there would more suitable turbocharger combinations to get to 250rwkw with much less lag and overall cost

[zaffa]

Well i was helping Dane with the question he asked, as he already has the turbo. Either way Power Fc is great computer full stop.

[paulr33]

correct the powerfc is a great computer but with stock injectors and stock pump it wont be a safe tune. youll need;

larger injectors

larger airflow meter

larger fuel pump

heavy duty clutch

some good tyres

cold air intake

suitable manifold (and gate if external)

suitable dump pipe

suitable 3" turbo back exhaust at the least (with hiflow cat)

[MKDR33]

My guess guys correct me if i'm wrong

Stock Fuel Pump (good for 200rwkw?)

Stock Injectors (good for 220rwkw?)

ive got stock injectors and fuel pump, atm im on 232rwkw with aftermarket turbo.. he would be able to get around 240-250rwkw before maxing out the fuel pump, injectors can go a bit more maybe 260rwkw..

[paulr33]

the point is, why would u want to risk it ?

what if it goes bang? why take that chance?

[The Dan]

700hp turbo running 16psi/pounds is alot of power my guess is you'll be making power around 230rwkw-300rwkw.

BUT your biggest problems is you don't have supporting mods to run that kind of power with your current setup.

My guess guys correct me if i'm wrong

Stock Fuel Pump (good for 200rwkw?)

Stock Injectors (good for 220rwkw?)

if i were in your shoes get the fuel pump and injectors done or else your engine will go BOOM! running 16psi on a 700hp turbo on stock fuel pump and injectors NOT a good idea.

OR if your really tight for funds get the front mount on, get the turbo on and RUN the lowest possible boost setting in the meantime until you can afford a fuel pump/injectors/metal head gasket. aim to tune the car for around the 200rwkw mark.

stock inj are good for 230-240

stock AFM maxes at near 210

Cams at 235

16psi boost on that turbo with computer, cams, AFM and inj upgrade will get you 320rwkw.

Without upgrading any of these things will cause the Boom you speak of. This should be interesting to watch.

[paulr33]

whilst its all good and fun to have 320rwkw on

ecu

cams

afm

injectors

what about the important stuff that makes it driveable?

whats the point of all that power will crappy tyres, stock suspension, stock clutch and other various components that help make the turbo upgrade worthwhile. a lot of people these days are into the habit of just grabbing any old cheap ebay turbo or garrett reseller $xyz$ and then bolting it and fitting mods (only bare essentials)

to me, i dont see the point, it would suck and be frustrating