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Yes as the saying goes..

The minority spoil it for the majority.

GTSTD1,

From your perspective, what is it generally that causes an officer to pull over a car for a general check?

Lowered, big exhaust milo tin looking things or do you simply do a quick history check?

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Maybe we should all become the minority (act in that hooony sort of way -- it would be good fun too! -- you know what they say about strength in numbers) that way they will be like oh we will let that slip its just another import driver and maybe relax laws... Or bring in harsher ones!

Joining the minority -- That way you will get your moneys worth when you do get screwed over for something you didnt do. .hehehehehehehe tell you what ive got my monies worth a few times hehehehehe

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**EDIT** ^^^^^ we all do not think like that

Yes as the saying goes..

The minority spoil it for the majority.

GTSTD1,

From your perspective, what is it generally that causes an officer to pull over a car for a general check?

Lowered, big exhaust milo tin looking things or do you simply do a quick history check?

or in my case twin milo tins :D

Edited by Madaz

GTSTD1,

It would also be good to hear your off the record perspective on the new hoon laws, I really hope you participate in a functional discussion.. Ignore the minority *cough redgtst* as he enjoys stirring and seeing how far he can push us moderators. :)

Woah, I didn't think I'd get this much reaction. Sorry I haven't posted for a few days, been too busy trying to catch little turds trying to steal cars.

I'll start by saying, no we don't have any directives to target certain cars. There are some out there who do, the reasons for which elude me. Section 160 of the Road Traffic Act 1961 spells out the law for defecting cars. Basically we have to form a suspicion that the car does not comply with safety standards/ design rules. As most of us would be the kind to look after our pride and joy, it's more likely the smoky old Gemini that I'm interested in. If your interested in a bit of bed time reading check out;

http://www.parliament.sa.gov.au/Catalog/le.../1961.50.un.htm

With these hoon laws, if you're doing burnouts, drifting, racing etc on the streets, then your asking to be pinched. I know I'm goin to sound like a cop here, but the streets are there for the use of everybody and it's just too bloody dangerous. Tell you what, next time I have to unwrap a 17 year old kid and his dad's car from a stoby pole, I'll give whoever is interested a call and they can come and check out the scene for them selves. Just bring a few barf bags and don't stop at Maccas on the way, you'd be wasting your money. If you'r e lucky enough to be pinched BEFORE you hit the pole, expect to have your car impounded for two days. Once you get to court, the max penalty is a $1275 fine. If you have prior convictions then the magistrate can further impound you car. I forget how many, but if you have mulitple convictions in a certain amount of time, you can lose your car FOR GOOD. (Although you can buy it back at auction). I don't think this has happened yet, as the laws have only been around for a short time.

Anyway, hope that anwers a few questions. Gotta go catch more five finger discounters.

Section 160 of the Road Traffic Act 1961 spells out the law for defecting cars. Basically we have to form a suspicion that the car does not comply with safety standards/ design rules.

And off the top of your head, how many safety standards /design rules do you know of, and how to test them by the side of the road to prove that they "might not" meet regulation?

Im referring to the number of police who see a car and say "too loud" without testing, or see a gear knob, and say "no shift pattern" and send these cars to regency.

Ive had an officer pull up next to me on a bike before and say -without provoking him- "If i hadn't just worked a 13 hour shift, id defect you for your blow off valve" then as the lights turned green, he did an illegal turn from the intersection, and sped away up the road.

Police like this deserve the "bad cop" label, but i have met some really nice police out there, who just do their job....fact of life.

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I got pulled over the other night, coming down belair rd, Could see some car flying up behind me, i knew exactly who they were, they stayed behind me for a little while, then down near Scotch College they veared right to go to the roundabout and i went straight...........i was still looking in my rearview to see them pull a u bolt and come back behind me, They pulled me over next to Scotch, i turned the car off straight away and jumped out to see what the deal was(smelling his brakes, good old commo crap) and he says "Random Breath Test Mate" I was thinking ohhhh yeh hear we go, very random as i just stated they flew up behind me and no one else any where in sight, very random yes officer! all clear on the bretho so he asks for my licence, gives it to his mate in the passenger seat obviously checks out ok and he says "ok nothing here you can go now" i was like thank F#@%, if he had got me for a defect i would have followed him back to the station and put in a complaint about it not bieng very random and the fact he was targeting me/us! all i can say is WANKERS

Woah, I didn't think I'd get this much reaction. Sorry I haven't posted for a few days, been too busy trying to catch little turds trying to steal cars.

what reaction? Im sure everyone has a million queries theyd like to put forward to you!

anyways, its all good, maybe come along on the next cruise (if off duty of course), meet some like-minded people, and go from there (in regards to answering 'defect' questions and the like)

cheers. :nyaanyaa:

Tell you what, next time I have to unwrap a 17 year old kid and his dad's car from a stoby pole, I'll give whoever is interested a call and they can come and check out the scene for them selves.

errr no thanks 1 herific car accident a year is enough for me too see.

as they say there is good and bad in every bunch..

sum of the 'bad apples' that we see are only trying to protect us and the public they have possibly seen to many young 1's kill them selves in V8's rotors and yes turbos...

so in my opinion there not really targeting skyline drivers but they know the performance of these machines

Just wondering in regards to the Road Traffic Act, I had a read through it and I could not see any ammendments concerning the 'hoon' or misuse of motor vechiles bill, does anyone have a link to the specific ammendments. This is after an hour of googling and searching the SA parliment website.

L3nny,

Hoon driving was in the link I posted. Its Part 3, division 4, section 44B. It's actually called 'Misuse of Motor Vehicle'. Hope this helps. >_<

Is it true once your car is defected you are flagged on the SAPOL system??? Oh BTW thanks for coming CLEAN!!!! nice to see not all cops are w&%kas

This line bothers me.

"Drives a motor vehicle, in a public place, in a race between vehicles, a vehicle speed trial, a vehicle pursuit or any competitive trial to test drivers' skills or vehicles"

Especially...."Any competitive trial to test drivers skill or vehicles"

That could be applied to almost anything that’s performed on the road. It’s so subjective and the police can use this to impound our vehicles on the spot, completely bogus. There is no defence for this legislation.

Can't believe its taken me over 2hrs to finish this :ermm:

...... Section 160 of the Road Traffic Act 1961 spells out the law for defecting cars. .........

http://www.parliament.sa.gov.au/Catalog/le.../1961.50.un.htm

L3nny,

Hoon driving was in the link I posted. Its Part 3, division 4, section 44B. It's actually called 'Misuse of Motor Vehicle'. Hope this helps. >_<

Cheers GTSD1, but this was the link I was originally looking at and I must apologise for not being as specific. I was looking for the details relating to seizure of property as I thought the 'Hoon Laws' (commonly referred) were an ammendment to incorporate this into the penalty. Interesting to note and its concerns the state government that a search was unsuccessful in turning up any information. In fact nearly all information that was found relating to news about the bill, but no link to the bill. The only information found was from a local council meeting minutes in discussing the proposed bill. http://www.mitchamcouncil.sa.gov.au/webdat...ncil_Agenda.pdf Bit of info here including the real name of the legislation. On page 22 point 14.7 (credit to ADM)

What concerns me is that the bill/act has been ammended and we know ignorance is not an acceptable defence, yet it has proven difficult to get/find the full act and ammendments.

.............. I'll start by saying, no we don't have any directives to target certain cars. There are some out there who do, the reasons for which elude me. .................. Basically we have to form a suspicion that the car does not comply with safety standards/ design rules. As most of us would be the kind to look after our pride and joy, it's more likely the smoky old Gemini that I'm interested in.

With these hoon laws, if you're doing burnouts, drifting, racing etc on the streets, then your asking to be pinched. I know I'm goin to sound like a cop here, but the streets are there for the use of everybody and it's just too bloody dangerous. ...............

Btw, cheers for your comments and for involving yourself in this thread. Personally, if people are stupid enough to do reckless driving then Im all for getting them off the roads I see too much of it on my daily 50-60km round trip to work. However, my concerns are similar to the original topic in that if we come across people with a extreme prejudice towards our vechiles, then as ADM has said the regs are so general it completely relies on the descretion of the officer and then up to us later either through court or regency to argue the point. And both options then take a considerable amount of time and money to get the situation correct, especially since if its defined as 'hooning' its impounding and for defect a full inspection at regency. This being said I don;t think all the attention should directed towards the police, our parlimentary members should be reviewing these bills to remove ambiguity.

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