Another Water Issue!

[dangerous_daveo]

Hi, I have a cefiro, its also a leaky cefiro at the moment. Which living in Queensland you wouldnt expect to be a problem, but it is!

Where the water seems to be coming in is around the passenger side footwell. As thats pretty bloody close to the ECU Im a tad worried. That and every time I get in the car it smells. And the floor is wet etc etc.

It never seems to be a problem when washing the car just when it rains. But its difficult for me to find out if its from driving in the rain, or the car sitting parked in the rain.

So can anyone maybe shead some light on where I should be looking. Even if I can just put something in the hole for the time being to stop water getting in until I can get it fixed properly.

I did find what I thought to be one hole, and I filled that up (just a rag+plastic bag) but its not really working. Due to the position of the leak Im not overly keen to get the hose and go for my life on the chance it really wrecks something.

Think you know what it is post away. Also would I just go to a pannel beaters to get it fixed?

Thanks.

[RANDY]

My first car had this problem.. an 85 VK Commodore.

Under the windscreen, kinda under the bonnet, you have a water-drainage thing on either side? It'd be under the wipers, but right on the side, and it's actually a hole in the inner front quarter panel.

If yes, then it's probably the same thing. That water drainage goes down under the car... problem is, it runs over (probably bare) metal, which rusted into a hole somewhere.

It used to fill up the passenger footwell to the point where I had to use a small bucket to bail the water out on winter mornings so I could drive to work.

Nothing else would appear wet... kickpanels off, ECU off, and still nothing wet. I think it was running down the firewall somewhere... but only ever did the footwell carpet get wet.

Frustrating, and looked like more money than the car was worth, so I never fixed it.

The idea I had for fixing this issue was to use a small PVC pipe, shove it down the drainage hole so that it goes from the entrance of the hole, all the way down to under the car where it normally drains out, and just to silicone the top of it. All the water would then get channeled down the pipe, and not touch the metal, and thusly not leak into the car.

If you don't have drainage holes where i've described, then i'm just typing for nothing! =-]

[dangerous_daveo]

Well thats one to try!

As its only started more recently (6months, but then its probably only rained 2days of that up until now) so it could be something to do with rust.

[AgentR31]

well what i am thinking is the bung for the ECU wiring is leaking

if it is then its an easy fix

jack the car up and place an axle stand under the car

pull the left hand front wheel off

pull the plastic gaurd off

locate the ECU wiring which is up towards the fire wall and look at the bung and make sure it is seated in the fire wall properly

if your not sure then grab a tube of skaflex and cover it up where the wiring goes into the bung and where the bung goes into the fire wall

[D-limo]

Daveo I think I have this problem too!!

When I picked up the Ceffy.. I was like WTF! Water on Wolf 3D ECU! Not good lol.. Have had it under cover since so have'nt had to deal with it again.. May be in troubles next time I'm driving in the rain though. Maybe a fault with seals, dunno?

I think AgentR31 is onto something.. the guy that installed the Wolf is apparently dodgy, wouldn't be surprised if there was no gromet. Also my inner plastic guards are gone due to scraping

Edited June 22, 2006 by Drift_Limo

[dangerous_daveo]

Anyone else, as its just started raining again

[Bl4cK32]

Sounds like a pain, but to get it properly....dash out

I know its a pain, but it may be the only way to see where its coming from / and fix it properly. If its a pin-hole leak, use sikaflex (black body sealer) or get someone handy with a mig to zap it.

It souldnt be too much hassle, if u just do 1 small bit at a time, and lay it all out.

Good luck.

ps - it aint the heater core is it? just when it rains?

[dangerous_daveo]

Yeah not heater core, its just when it rains.

[Craved]

other spot would be the speaker cable area near the door hinges..

as thats outside and usually the ecu loom comes out inside the engine bay

[Trust33]

cover the ecu for safteys sake for the time being.

[dangerous_daveo]

cover the ecu for safteys sake for the time being.

Yep done and done.

I pulled the carpet back today, and I was changing wheels over so I had a good look.

It seems there is wear on the plastic tyre guard thing. So water could be getting through there. To me it doesnt look like the ecu gromit, looks ok. I dont have any sealent here so I'll try grab some durring the week and seal it up just to rule that out. But it does seem the water is getting in down where that is...

Im almost thinking it could be something air vent related as well.

Thanks for the help btw, anything else post it up.

[RANDY]

Get the hose, and stick it into that water drainage thing I was talking about. Turn the hose on, and then see if there is any water coming in, while the carpet is stuck back.

The area you are talking about in the wheel arch is where the drainage that I was talking about should go.