Dangerous Driving Nonsense

[siddr20]

edit: ok i guess i understand why you wrote what you wrote.. all good..

Edited June 25, 2006 by siddr20

[siddr20]

You travelling at 116km, stray dog runs out, into your path, you brake, swerve, loose control, smash through a fence, and end up stationary in a couple’s bedroom with one person dead. All because you "think" you are some shit hot driver that has had X amount of lessons. From all those lessons you still didn't learn the most important rule, "Defensive Driving": Never trust other drivers, pedestrians, animals, etc, to do the right thing. Always expect the unexpected and drive according to the conditions and your surroundings.

Lost of lic. for 19months, great one less idiot on the road!

So what happens if you doin 60ks in a 60 k zone and the same thing happens as your described above??

So does that mean we shouldnt drive at all, just incase if a dog or some little kid runs out??

[siddr20]

Edit: whyd u delete your post above ^^^

Im not saying that im a perfect driver.. far from it and so are you all..

but im saying no point saying 'you are stupid and you dont deserve your licence for speeding n shit..'

Coz we all do it.. that is all..

Edited June 25, 2006 by siddr20

[govich]

I think what me and one or two other guys were getting at is that you shouldn't be surprised or blame the system when you lose your licence for doubling the speed limit. I wouldn't be. No one's claiming they never speed.

Edited June 25, 2006 by govich

[siddr20]

govish--- ohh totally agree with you there.. haha btw u dont happen to be in the shire area last nite around 11.30pm?? Thats if u live in sydney.. saw smilar car to yours, but with different rims..

[govich]

govish--- ohh totally agree with you there.. haha btw u dont happen to be in the shire area last nite around 11.30pm?? Thats if u live in sydney.. saw smilar car to yours, but with different rims..

Nah..i'm in sydney but north-west.

[siddr20]

ahh all good.. saw exactly same car as yours last nite, but with different rims..

[Johnny Cash]

Speed limits are imposed and decreased to make money, nothing else. Any reasons given for speed limits or speed limit decreases are only used to justify the action, not explain it.

If they were serious about speeding causing accidents, they would not fine people but subject them to driver training etc. This just means the rich can speed. Big deal.

[iplen]

The stats I am quoting I will not guarentee but they are certainly in the vicinlty if someone can correct me it would be appreciated:

people killed on NSW roads each 365 days; 600

Population of NSW; 5,000,000

percentage of people that die each year 0.012...

estimate of how many people travel on our roads each day; 3,500,000

mutplied by number of days; 1,277,500,000 people trave on our roads each year (and still only 600 are killed)

in 50% of accidents speed is BELIEVED to be a factor...

of those about 25% of fatalities were not wearing seatbelts

about 20% the driver was under the influence

about 12% the driver was not licensed

so lets assume that 30% of fatalities are speed related (a bit high but I am not good at maths)

this means that as percentage of people that travel on our roads each year the number that die due to speeding is about....

0.000023%

I am not going to say we should do 100k in a 60, however, is it fair to fine so many people so much money when you start looking at the numbers??

(now removing oneself from soapbox and returning very quickly to cave)

[LEWIS]

well thought out mate^^^^^

[govich]

Speed limits are imposed and decreased to make money, nothing else. Any reasons given for speed limits or speed limit decreases are only used to justify the action, not explain it.

If they were serious about speeding causing accidents, they would not fine people but subject them to driver training etc. This just means the rich can speed. Big deal.

I think this is a bit shortsighted. You can't actually think that the only reason speed limits are imposed is to make money? Seriously? Would you be comfortable with everyone flying around at 120 past the local shops? The part you could call revenue raising is fining someone for going 63 at the bottom of a hill in a 60 zone.

Also, you lose demerit points when you speed. So the rich can't really speed off into the sunset. BTW 'justify' on dictionary.com: "To demonstrate or prove to be just, right, or valid".

iplen, it's true that speeding gets way more attention than most other things that kill more people, but it's relatively easy to enforce and needs to be enforced (within reason) to keep things in control..

[Al]

So what happens if you doin 60ks in a 60 k zone and the same thing happens as your described above??

So does that mean we shouldnt drive at all, just incase if a dog or some little kid runs out??

Is this a serious question? :

At 60km/h you will start braking soon, manover at a slower speed, will probably not loose traction, and either stop b4 hitting dog or manover around it safely.

If you seriously had to ask this question, best pull out you pushy and leave the 'line in the garage, we will all be alot safer.

[craig V8 taffe]

The guys who get them selves wrapped around a pole are obviously the idiots and really should have thier licences revoked -

FYI I was doing 116km/h in a 60km/h zone on a dead straight 4 lane road at 12am. and lost my licence for 19 months (NSW)

I think the obvious idiot here is you. It doesn't matter what time, that kind of speed is wrong. That area is 60 and not 100 for a reason.

Maybe when your balls drop you will realise that.

You do an advance driving course and think your king shit.. more like king of shit.

Grow up mate.

[mid life crisis]

wait till you loose a family member to a speeding driver and see if you have the same feelings then .

this it wont happen to me cause i did advanced driver course is false security .like the other guy said get ya pushey out till ya balls drop

[700HP-GTR33]

wait till you loose a family member to a speeding driver and see if you have the same feelings then .

this it wont happen to me cause i did advanced driver course is false security .like the other guy said get ya pushey out till ya balls drop

Hello all

Ive driven over 1million kilometres and i still believe a safe driver is a cautious driver.

Always believe there could be a person just about to walk onto the road infront of that car and

you have past the test.

Anyway much to fast to go in a suburban street and ignorant in safety. Get on a f**ken track and

thrash your car silly when u get your licence back so you dont do it on our roads.

There are women children and babies in the cars and on the streets, have a bit of respect for them.

Speed is reserved for track and drag racing, and although i am a constant speeder i rarely go over 20kms

above the speed zone on our streets, because of the rule of caution.56 kms over the limit is careless and

ignorant to believe you'll be right mate....dahhh.....you are lucky they took your license away.

Because you could of killed not only yourself but someone else.

I am glad because they might have saved a life..

Regards

Tekin

[nisskid]

STFU and do the limit u fool. the speed limits aint just for driver skill, they take into account that in order for the car to physically stop in time u cannot be doing over a certain speed. unless ur super dooper driving skills cant make a car stop quicker (some situations this is true - granted)

i have also got caught in excess of 10ks over the limt and i accept it, i knew the rules i chose to disobey them, well not really i didnt have a speedo so i didnt know what speed i was doing, but it was my fault for not getting it fixed.

cop it on the chin and let it be a lesson.

[dangerous_daveo]

Id just like to quickly point out to all the people that have said harsher testing will help.

It wont do bugger all unless it has the training to go with it. They will simply fail and fail and fail until they have the training to pass.

End of the day, what I feel is harsh this guy gets 19months for speeding. Where as a drunk driver might only get 6months if they are a repeat offender. Now that is bad. It needs to refect the crime a bit more.

[siddr20]

Is this a serious question?

At 60km/h you will start braking soon, manover at a slower speed, will probably not loose traction, and either stop b4 hitting dog or manover around it safely.

If you seriously had to ask this question, best pull out you pushy and leave the 'line in the garage, we will all be alot safer.

Dude ok.. WHat im saying is, no matter at what speeds you do, you are still likely to hit someone and injury someone or something seriously. What happens if there are conditions where you cant serve right due to narrow roads or something..

I guess it all depends in the conditions you are in.. Something will always come out unexpected.

But yes obviously doin excessive speeds will take longer to stop and be a little more dangerous. But even 60ks stopping to say 20ks and hitting someone will injure them serverly.

I guess it also depends on luck and chance.

So best method is driver awarness..

[scathing]

in 50% of accidents speed is BELIEVED to be a factor...

Yeah, belief can be a very dangerous thing since there's a wide gulf between belief and reality.

Reality is, speed is a factor in 100% of road accidents.

Edited June 25, 2006 by scathing

[scathing]

You do an advance driving course and think your king shit.. more like king of shit.

Grow up mate.

Exactly.

Its people like this that give the politicians ammunition to say that driver training courses (including a previous NSW Roads minister) make young road drivers even more dangerous than those that haven't been advance driver trained.

Want to know why the RTA and the NSW government won't make advanced driver training courses mandatory (and subsidised) for new drivers? Feel free to direct your complaints to our ex-"four door Godzilla" operator.

It may be 4 lanes wide in points, but if I remember Windsor Road correctly there are houses with driveways facing that road. There are footpaths next to it. There are the occasional petrol station / shop that don't have a slip road to allow joining traffic to match pace before merging.

Edited June 25, 2006 by scathing