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Thanks for the input guys, think ill get this pioneer DEH-P6850MP. I saw it on ebay for $375, most places are selling it for just over $500 so i'll have to work out where to get it.

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this one has a motorised face and is all blue instead of part blue and part red compared with the 5850 I originally looked at....

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Edited by r32line

its really up to you - however these are my suggestions ( I sell these as well.)

kenwood:

KDCMP5033U - $429

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KDCMP7533U - $499

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DPXMP4090 - $499

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Blaupunkt.

BAHAMAS MP46 - $299

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ACAPULCO MP54 - $499 ($599RRP)

this one will tune itself to the car's acoustics.

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I have a few more in mind as well. prices listed on the kenwood gear are RRP. ask as I probably can do better :D

Edited by Chris Rogers

I like the way Chris Rogers is heading with the Blaupunkt head units, I have heard good things about these units as of late, they are a quality, yet unfortunately overlooked brand.

Personally Pioneer is not a brand I would consider using in my own vehicle, I have had mates use the lower end stuff, with poor results, such as internal failure after several years.

My Choices would be from these three following brands:

Eclipse

Alpine

JVC

Edited by MintR33

Appreciate it guys, my only issue with Blaupunkt or Kenwood is that i havent seen a headunit they make in my budget that i like the look of. That mite sound silly, but realistically, i think quality wise around that price not a huge difference and i really like the look of the pioneer 6850 (ref above).

Altohough there were some jvc units i mite consider, but they are a bit too flashy i think, also my sub is a 12" pioneer and rears are 6" 3-way pioneer's, but the amp is a jvc, haha. I'd like to keep it to those brands if possible :D

I am going to say something here that will most likely annoy some viewers. But...

STAY AWAY FROM BLAUPUNKT!

I hope I made that clear, just in case you are in doubt.

STAY AWAY FROM BLAUPUNKT!

Sure the quality of the units are ok, but the after sales support from Blau Australia and their lack of direction in Australia has seen them do a massive shift out of Car Audio. They have recently been dumped by two major chains and many independants.

Sure the Blau unit will work and sure it will sound ok, but WHEN you have a problem, and i say WHEN not if, it WILL be a major problem for you.

The entry level Blau product also uses very cheap lasers. Unfortunately the "blue dot" of quality is long gone.

Take your $500, buy through a dealer in Australia, not through ebay and go for something that has good sound quality and after sales support from the Brand.

The Pioneer Dehp6850mp you have suggested is good value for money. If you spend a little extra you can go into the Bluetooth unit, so you effectivly get a handsfree kit for your bluetooth phone.

I would also check out the new clarion range, very understated yet very good.

As for Sony, I would only look at one unit which is best bought at jb for price it is CDXGT550

Kenwood is quite good, however watch for some of their entry level product that still uses SANYO lasers and mechs. These are the same lasers found in $49 cd walkmans and suffer failure through vibration.

Kenwood use different lasers in there high end product and these do not suffer the same problem.

Yeah, you dont see Blaupunkt in many shops, i was just thinking that, and im gunna stay away from ebay, some ppl are selling usa headunits so am radio dont work and god knows what else, and where to go if there is a problem, im goin to jb tomorow, ill let you know how i go, hopefully money talks and i can get a nice unit at a decent price..

Edited by r32line

I've purchased 2 pioneer headunits off ebay and had no problems. they were both from overseas, and were both the australian version as advertised.

You take a risk warranty wise, although the seller does say it can be sent back to malaysia or where ever it came from for warranty, but who could be bothered....neither of them ever stuffed up.

The in my 33 is high end pioneer, and i got it at JB, only because I was able to get most of my shit at cost price.

Yeah it wont be much more expensive at the shop than from ebay and for peace of mind id rather the shop. The installer guy said sometimes pioneer units out of the factory can have a problem which my current unit seems to, its causeing buzz when the car is running, everything else has been checked, its down to the head unit...hence the need for a new one.

So with that in mind warranty is at the forefront of my mind. But I am slowly learning to embrase ebay

Yeah it wont be much more expensive at the shop than from ebay and for peace of mind id rather the shop. The installer guy said sometimes pioneer units out of the factory can have a problem which my current unit seems to, its causeing buzz when the car is running, everything else has been checked, its down to the head unit...hence the need for a new one.

So with that in mind warranty is at the forefront of my mind. But I am slowly learning to embrase ebay

Are you sure the buzzing isn't interference from the car's electrical system?

hey man..

i got marty to install them for me (FHRX) today..

very pleased as its a vast improvments over my stock speakers.

Now overall bass with these hertz spilts front and coxials rears are expectional.

However these arent sound deadend or amped. Still waitin on funds for that bit.

But i mean, for $300 fronts and $200 rears, you cant go wrong i guess..

But everyone has different tastes, so the hertz might not be for some people.

Anyways randy, atm these co-oxials arent bassy as you like it to be. But they do me fine for rear-fills.. But once i set the blance to middle that is, equal amount front n rear, it does sound like i got a small sub in the boot..

Cheers.

I don't think you can really extract much more power out of a head unit mate.

Might be a good idea to run an amp... even a smallish 50wrms amp will be more powerful than a headunit that puts out a peak of 50watts.

Ah yeah, I run a newer amp now... the JayCar 100wrms unit, which seems to drive them just as well as my old (large) amp. I have the balance faded to the front (+7), and the JBL's still flop around like crazy. I'm running the higher end crossover, so they are hardly getting any lower frequencies. This has stopped them from throwing the coils, but now have ZERO bass.

I might get another pair of Clarion splits, as I had suggested... $200 new, I can find them for $100ish nowdays... the new models have brought the older ones down.

got models?

most speakers will only handle 40-70w RMS (for get the big numbers they are just that , numbers.) so realistically an amplifier onf 75w RMS will drive all 4 nicely.

hey man..

i got marty to install them for me (FHRX) today..

very pleased as its a vast improvments over my stock speakers.

Now overall bass with these hertz spilts front and coxials rears are expectional.

However these arent sound deadend or amped. Still waitin on funds for that bit.

But i mean, for $300 fronts and $200 rears, you cant go wrong i guess..

But everyone has different tastes, so the hertz might not be for some people.

Anyways randy, atm these co-oxials arent bassy as you like it to be. But they do me fine for rear-fills.. But once i set the blance to middle that is, equal amount front n rear, it does sound like i got a small sub in the boot..

Cheers.

you have to get the doors deadened siddr

only $150 and some elbow grease.

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