Does Anyone On Here Own This R34 Gtr?

[Daz]

thats got to suck

[Al]

Is this the same GTR that had a lucky escape at Calder Park, on a WRX track day, in Feb?

If not, i also remember seeing another very neat silver 34GTR at Sandown.

Good luck with the repairs, all the best.

PS: AU's suck!! Mine has gone through 2 auto transmissions, one gas converter, 3 dash inserts, numerous gasket seal, etc. The only thing worse than the AU, are the mechanics at the Ford dealerships . But as i stated b4; It's all good when it is free

[provo]

Is this the same GTR that had a lucky escape at Calder Park, on a WRX track day, in Feb?

If not, i also remember seeing another very neat silver 34GTR at Sandown.

Good luck with the repairs, all the best.

PS: AU's suck!! Mine has gone through 2 auto transmissions, one gas converter, 3 dash inserts, numerous gasket seal, etc. The only thing worse than the AU, are the mechanics at the Ford dealerships . But as i stated b4; It's all good when it is free

No, the only WRX track meeting i've been to was Sandown in June.

Cheers,

Neil

[Jetdat]

No, the only WRX track meeting i've been to was Sandown in June.

Cheers,

Neil

i remember seeing it there that day, friend and i both thought it was nice...

sorry to hear/see this though

[RCHOO]

I've also got an AU. It's a bloody good car, possibly the sexiest four door ever made.

So you havnt seen my car...........

[paulr33]

curious question to those who've seen the wobbles with trailers.

what tyre pressure were u running on the trailer tyres?

[SXR]

curious question to those who've seen the wobbles with trailers.

what tyre pressure were u running on the trailer tyres?

I had the wobbles so many times, but never checked the tyre pressure.

Problem with my tow car is its to damn low, which puts too much weight to the front....plus some of these hire trailer really sucks.

[mitchy_]

are cars insured whilst being towed?

[saff_cossie]

That nearly happen to me coming back from Winton....I had to keep in under 100 to keep the trailer steady.....And my tow car is a FORD.

I thought this was normal. 60mph or 100kph is the legal limit in the UK for trucks and cars towing trailers. As trucks are 100kph here I assumed trailers were the same.

Sorry to see the mess and glad it can be fixed.

BTW I would like to nominate the taxi in my siggy for the sexiest 4 door Ford ever made

[Snowman]

That sucks Niel. But I'm glad to hear you are ok though.

curious question to those who've seen the wobbles with trailers.

what tyre pressure were u running on the trailer tyres?

The first thing I did on the drive up to Sydney when I got the wobbles was stop and check the tyre pressures and they were all fine. The wobbles tend to come on during a down-hill section where the trailer trailer tries to go faster than the car. This is made worse when the tow car is lighter than what is being towed (which is consequently why it's against the law to do it in Vic).

[GTRgeoff]

Sorry to hear of the accident and injury Neil. Hope all is well soon

I have several hundred thousand kays towing weird loads doing heavy recovery and repair for Army. When you put a car (or any sprung load) on a trailer you are more prone to the trailer getting the wobbles and tank slapping. One of the biggest problems is the silly over tyre retainers that people use. They are so common now but really are just scary.

One of the problems we had where I got to test and quantify the failures and solutions was where I ran the Army trials on the ASLAV 8WD fighting vehicle transport solution and aside from putting wooden blocks underneath and chaining down onto them the next best was to pull the vehicle down hard on the suspension. Unfortunately someone a whole lot smarter (ie. has more rank) decided to change to tyre straps and driver constantly complain about the instability so it's a matter of time before another serious fallover. The same is true for cars, buses, trucks, I've even had a triple trailer road train hooked up behind the 286hp Mack Wrecker (massive 11 litre 6 cyl engine with huge turbo so small peak power but wicked torque into a 5 speed crash box). All vehicles move around on their suspension causing the trailer to move in an unpredictable way. A tyre down on pressure can be a cow as well.

What Snowy said about the brake is a good temporary cure. Set the brake a little tighter on the actuator and it keeps the trailer pulled in behind, especially down hills where it wants to overtake but wears the brakes out. If it's a rental who cares but you do want brakes for when you have to stop.

Braking slightly is usually the best method but is a bit hard with rentals as they rely on the pressure in the piston to start to slow. If you have a trailer remote brake overide then use that to pull the trailer in behind until you can pull over and fix properly. Ultimately properly restrained to the trailer is the only real solution.

As for Fords being crap, I've owned several and still have one in the driveway I use for towing the 6x4 and have no problems with them. Also I don't recall a GTS4 owner ever beating me in any event on the track or DECA, so does that mean they are crap drivers and have to hide behind AWD to cover their faults????

[Links]

provo - sorry to hear.. not good to see a picture of it either in the paper..

Are you covered by insurance for this sort of thing? or does it come out of your own picket - interested to know..

[GTRgeoff]

BTW Snowy you might find it's only against the law where there are no trailer brakes fitted which all car trailers I've used have, usually a brake overide system but they need a little adjustment to get right. How else do people tow their really large boats/operate primes with a tri-axle trailer.

What stuns me is there is no special license to use a trailer. You have car license so you are automatically good to tow??? And the govt says they are getting tough on road safety. BS!! We have people who can't parallel park that can legally tow (and one would assume reverse and restrain a load correctly IAW state and federal requirements) with no extra training.

[provo]

That sucks Niel. But I'm glad to hear you are ok though.

The first thing I did on the drive up to Sydney when I got the wobbles was stop and check the tyre pressures and they were all fine. The wobbles tend to come on during a down-hill section where the trailer trailer tries to go faster than the car. This is made worse when the tow car is lighter than what is being towed (which is consequently why it's against the law to do it in Vic).

Cheers Andrew,

The tyre pressures and trailer hook-up (ride height) were checked by the trailer hire guy. I guesstimated there was between 100-150kg of weight on the tow ball (it's recommended that you have 5-15% of the weight being towed on the tow ball), I stopped twice between Ararat and Ballarat to check that nothing had moved, and the car was tied down with webbing and rope plus the steel winch cable. I was cruising along at 90-95km/h and everything was handling fine until the long steep downhill section at Pikes Creek on the Western Hwy when the fishtailing started, and didn't stop despite attempted acceleration (the suggested method of correcting this problem).

Apparently, it is legal to tow up to 1.5 times the mass of the towing vehicle with a braked trailer - not that I'll ever try this again - the car will be delivered straight from the repairers to Racepace by truck!

Most importantly, AAMI (Ford) and Just Car Insurance (GTR) have covered the damage. Though I'm sure the insurance on the GTR will skyrocket next time the policy is up for renewal.

[miniwog]

Could be onto something here...

It's allegably quite easy for Ford drivers to overturn GTR's

[R34NRG]

When I say "relatively'', if it was a commodore and not a GTR, it would have been about $12,000 to fix, but because of the price of parts etc on the gtr you can multiply by about a factor of 4!

All panels down the passenger side rooted, nose ripped off (going to put a nismo front bar on as a replacement), passenger side suspension components damaged etc.

man i cant say i feel wat ur going through but i got some idea....i currently own a r34 gtt and is no where near as crazi as sexy gtr but its been smashed off the road into a pole by some commodore driver. id proberly be crying if it was a GTR....i hope everything goes well man...hopefulli ill see u around some day...where bouts are u usually

Edited July 9, 2006 by anjoO

[JAGR33]

Sorry to hear Neil, good thing you came out unscathed...

Its quite dangerous towing a big car like a GTR on hired trailers, most of them are rated at 1200kg towing capacity, and having a 1600kg GTR on it is quite risky. That aside it makes life easier if you have quite a large tow vehicle such as a 4wd to stop the trailer pushing the car down hills..

You'd be surprised how many incidents like this I come across.....

[Bec]

Awful news Neil, but I guess you are lucky as it could have been worse.

Hope you get it all sorted out soon and look forward to seeing it back on the road.

[phunky_monkey]

Sorry to see something like this mate, hope all works out well.

As for those with the silly comments, there is no need for that, could happen to anyone. I'm sure this is hard enough on the owner without wise cracks...

Dane

[R31Nismoid]

AH jesus...

Was this before or after you helped us @ Winton mate?