30mm Wide Wheel Spacers On Front Wheel ?

[felixy69]

i just got wide front fenders on my gtr,

i need to run 30mm wide spacers to make my 17x9+21off wheels to fit the gap

my question is

what are the disadvantage of running such a huge spacers in the front ?

i'll be running one with a longer stud.

will the hub wear out? will i get slow steering responds ?

[Sydneykid]

This moves the tyre contact patch outwards 30 mm, which means;

Tramlining, pretty bad I would say

Premature wheel bearing wear

Heavy steering

Hence steering linkage wear

And steering rack wear

Premature tyre wear

Increased loading on the radius rods due to the increased leverage

Leading to increase radius rod bush wear

Or if you have spherical bearings with adjustable radius rods, perhaps bearing failure

Premature wear of the upper inner and outer conrol arm bushes

Premature wear of the lower inner control arm bush

Premature wear of the lower outer ball joint

That's about it for a start.

cheers

PS; with the power output your engine is going to have, the tramlining will be extreme

[DaFuca]

Not also to mention how illigal it is to run spacers in the first place. (Or is that only in South Australia, I'd Prolly check cos I know that most insurance places will not cover a car with spacers)

[NXTIME]

I hope you mean bolt on spacers.

[felixy69]

ekkk...i guess thats no good

[NateR31]

This moves the tyre contact patch outwards 30 mm, which means;

Tramlining, pretty bad I would say

Premature wheel bearing wear

Heavy steering

Hence steering linkage wear

And steering rack wear

Premature tyre wear

Increased loading on the radius rods due to the increased leverage

Leading to increase radius rod bush wear

Or if you have spherical bearings with adjustable radius rods, perhaps bearing failure

Premature wear of the upper inner and outer conrol arm bushes

Premature wear of the lower inner control arm bush

Premature wear of the lower outer ball joint

That's about it for a start.

cheers

PS; with the power output your engine is going to have, the tramlining will be extreme

how would these things not happen if the offset of the wheels were 0 and stuck out further? Or would then happen regardless in puttng a wider wheel with lower offset on the front

[frx026]

Not just South Aust where spacers are illegal. Also VIC.

[MANWHOR3]

sydneykid, that's quite interesting what you said above. I was just wondering whether the same applies to using a different offset wheel too?

e.g. stock r32 gtr wheels are 16x8 +30. If I ran a 16x8 0 offset, that effectively brings the wheels out 3 cm right?

Will this have the same effect?

[Laurence]

Tramlining, pretty bad I would say

The car might tramline, but at least it won't look like a Tram with wheels hidden under the guards

As for the other questions, are you guys seriously asking if a wheel with a certain offset is different to

a wheel spacer combo with the same offset?

If one person is 6 foot in high heels and one is six feet with bare feet will they both hit their head on a 5'10 doorway?

Edited July 9, 2006 by Laurence

[djr81]

sydneykid, that's quite interesting what you said above. I was just wondering whether the same applies to using a different offset wheel too?

e.g. stock r32 gtr wheels are 16x8 +30. If I ran a 16x8 0 offset, that effectively brings the wheels out 3 cm right?

Will this have the same effect?

It is the same thing. Adding wheel spacers effectively changes the wheel offset.

Legend has it that GT-R's don't really like having this sort of thing done to them...

Edited July 10, 2006 by djr81

[Sydneykid]

The car might tramline, but at least it won't look like a Tram with wheels hidden under the guards

Spacers aren't the answer, skinny front wheels hanging out side the rear track looks almost as bad.

A better answer is 10.5" wide wheels with 0 offset, making them 21 mm further out and 17 mm further in.

That will give a barely discernable increase in tramlining.

You will need to do a little inner guard tweaking, nothing major.

Obviously that's all round, so will need to match the rear guards with the front.

cheers

Edited July 10, 2006 by Sydneykid

[garage-13]

25mm bolt ons should feel fine

[Sydneykid]

25mm bolt ons should feel fine

I found 15 mm bascially impossible to drive with 400 rwhp.

His engine is going to have almost twice that.

cheers

[garage-13]

yeh the trusty SK tramline setup can be hard to drive..

i better not drift this wkend on my 18 by 9/10 neg 17s

suspension might explode on impact with tarmac

Cheers

[sh@un]

They reckon that Jap road-regs require manufacturers to have more edge-of-rim/tyre to guard clearance than most other countries- Ever notice how far standard wheels sit in on GT-Rs?

[dangerous_daveo]

SK, spacers would only be an issue with the wider guards and trying to fill them out tho yeah? Otherwise as long as they have the little hub thing on the spacer they would be ok?

[garage-13]

haha... they are evil and dangerous

DANGEROUS I TELLS YA

/runs away and dives through window

[$85ea hub centric spacers available from garage-13.com]

[dangerous_daveo]

I got mine custom for $70

[DaFuca]

I got mine custom for $70

I think I got a catalogue at work that has them in there from some Victorian Company that makes them and other car accessories. and they are in there for about $130 for a pair ($65 each) Might have to check that price again though..

[AzzurrA]

yeh the trusty SK tramline setup can be hard to drive..

i better not drift this wkend on my 18 by 9/10 neg 17s

suspension might explode on impact with tarmac

Cheers

*shrug* you can believe whatever you want mate, but personally, i'm with SK on this one... its sheer physics... and basic (i.e. year 9 level) physics at that.