Another Heartbreaking Got Defected Last Nite Story.

[lastlineofdefence]

On what grounds did she conduct this search of your vehicle? Is she even allowed to open your boot or look inside your vehicle? Did you consent to it at any stage?

check for roadworthiness

[GTAAAH]

Yeh thats some serious bs. I agree on the legal advice, you even got a witness to say she was a bitch. If that fails id be going postal on the police department. Seems to me everytime i get pulled over, the cops just wanna chat about how hard it goes, they check my mods, but i guess there not illegal in vic, and most of them tell me tales of there v8's they had 10 years ago that they wrote off or used to drop bangas in. Evil woman cops!!

Edited July 10, 2006 by r32 gts-turbo

[syx]

id like to know the legalities of them looking in your car too. I was pulled over once andone cop started talking to me near the back of the car and the other one went around and started going through my glovebox and centre console while I was talking to the first one.

[Savage Bliss]

Jesus...

bov

pod

intercooler

boost gauge

boost controller

an exhaust noise and emissions test aswell

Harsh dude.

Hang on... I not 100% sure these are a roadworthy issue... Did she give you major or a minor?

Edited July 10, 2006 by Savage Bliss

[Savage Bliss]

id like to know the legalities of them looking in your car too. I was pulled over once andone cop started talking to me near the back of the car and the other one went around and started going through my glovebox and centre console while I was talking to the first one.

Police can look in but can't search the car if there's "reasonable" suspicion for them doing so... hence asking the question "any drugs or weapons"

Only TMU and CIB have right to search and ask you to open the boot... not roadside traffic cops.

However... the way out of this is asking the cop at the time "am I legally obligated to open the boot? or even am I legally obligated to get out of the car?" If they can't come up with any legitimate legal reason for you doing either then you are totally in your right to reject their request or ask for legal representation to be present before doing so. I know it's far fetched when you're standing on the side of the road... but they are your rights.

And I know this is all too late as well...

Edited July 10, 2006 by Savage Bliss

[AzzurrA]

however, i'm pretty sure they have to ask your permission to search it as well (i.e. they have to ask ur permission to pop the bonnet/boot/search the interior.

all the relevant legislation is online, if you can be assed reading through 11ty billion pages of parliamentary dribble.

for qld'ers, it's located at http://www.legislation.qld.gov.au

[Sydneykid]

I sympathyse,

I have a story almost the same.

I was driving a freind home at 2pm o9n a tuesday doen Victoria road just before the bridge hedding to drymmoyne (spelling)

when I see an RMT on the side of the road. I pulled over and a male com asked me if I had had anything to drink. I said no officer and blew and was tested ok. as soon as the results came up a female cop came up and asked me if I had an engineering certificate for my exhaust. (standard oval muffler with a chrome 4" tip. I said NO is a supprised voice and she told me to get out of the car as if I had weapons in the car. she then went over my completly stock (and i mean factory stock automatic no boost guage, no intercooler car) making notes as she went.

She than asked me to pop the bonnett and started to point at the alternator and asked me what it was, I said "it is an alternator officer" is a semi smart voice. She then called another cop over and he had a look under the bonnet and tyres and ride height.

I got slapped with

Illegal ride height. the car has factory suspension and looks like a 4WD

Fail noise polution. test. once again factory exhaust

Illegal tint too dark. had this checked and it was within spec

Illegal BOV. WTF!!!!! the car dosen't even have a BOV!!!

Drivers window broken. this was true it would not go down properly.

and was told I would get a fine and had 7 days to get the car repaired and cleared or rego would be cancelled.

I fixed the window and took the car to an inspection station with the defect and the guy could not belive it. He asked me if I had put all the factory stuff back on and I told him it was defected exactly like it was there and then. He passed it and I got it sorted at the RTA.

3 weeks later I get a call saying I am going to have my car audited to confirm all the modifications have been repaired andwere legal. I fu*&n flipped.

A week later an inspector came to my house and looked at the car and was really nice as soon as he saw it was completly stock. he passed it and even said he was sorry to put me thru all of this.

It can happen to anyone. BTW the fine never came.

END RANT...

Are you suing them?

For loss of income, while you cleared up their mistakes

Pain and suffering, at being falsely accused

Legal costs, for mounting this case

Someone has to do it, get it on the news, make a stand, show them that they have to obey the law even MORE than we do.

cheers

Edited July 10, 2006 by Sydneykid

[syx]

thanks guys

[Rezz]

NSW Police's Customer Assistance Unit on 1800 622 571

^^^ Theres your problem right there... the Police think we're 'customers'.

What a joke. And you know what? THEY say we're wrong (even if we aren't) so we're wrong. Police discression is a bloody joke.

[Beer Baron]

that truly is a horror story. both of them. thankfully i've yet to encounter a situation like this but it seems that it may just be a matter of time. that is really harsh mate, I hope this comes out in your favour. at least you have some good advice in this thread.

[WazR32GTSt]

that is a terrible experience mate..

Look, i agree with the other that have said to pursue the legalities of what they have done. and challenge it in court.

You might feel like one insignificant person against an army, but seriously we have to make a stand - lets make it start here!

if you can challenge it and win, call a current affair and get it out there on the airplay. Make people see how we are treated

Its discrimination - and last time i checked that's ethically and morally wrong

[someonestolecc]

if you can challenge it and win, call a current affair and get it out there on the airplay. Make people see how we are treated

Please no today affairs. It's not a public opinion battle it's a legal one.

[WazR32GTSt]

once legal preceedigns have finished...

[LTSJayce]

1. sit down right now and write out exactly what happened

2. have your brother do the same

3. get a lawyer, there are specialists in road traffic law

4. use the lawyer to lodge a complaint about her attitude with her superior. Make sure it includes incorrect procedure and process and false accusations

5. through the lawyer ask for copies of the pictures she took. If she didn't take any pictures, you are home free.

6. change what you need to, engineers are in the yellow pages

7. take pictures of the car how it is now and after the changes

8. don’t pay the fines, tick the I want to go to court box

9. if it doesn’t have a defect sticker on it you can drive it

10. you can drive it until the court date, probably early next year

11. the first court appearance is just a formality, not guilty, come back in 3 to 4 months. Indicate through your lawyer that you will be seeking damages, loss of income, cost of lawyer, cost of engineers report (saying nothing is wrong), cost of engineer to come to court, pain and suffering etc.

12. second court appearance leave it to the lawyer if he/she is any good they will win easily.

cheers

Listen to this advice,all & sundry:it may help all of us out some day! Well put,S.K.!

[700HP-GTR33]

Bingo.

If we would all come together and unit as one...the polititians and the law will change

We are fighting a loosing battle with people who do not understand our needs.

This would not have happened if you showed up in a 911 turbo.

Please answer a yes or a no to a thread i started on this topic

[Guest Mashrock]

f**k they are going to go to town when i get pulled over.

[R34NRG]

feel sorry for u man......i might not no much about the topic but u should take legal action...if the police have no evidence to what was defected and how u had a "atitude" towards the pig......i dont see how ur guilty of anything.

hate to say it but this is how the court system runs......no evidence no case....wether its in our favour or not

[R34NRG]

its proberly nothing but i have never encounted cops this harsh.......maybe these cops are from a certain area?.....i hear about this stuff...are they anywhere close to the other incidents

[ODessA]

its a major defect.

she slammed a yellow sticker onto the inside of the windscreen, very near the middle of it too like she was making a statement to us, really fkn slammed it on too.

its exhaust/ emissions

ancillary equipment and " other"

1.intercooler fitted to be removed and system to comply

2. gauges fitted to a pillar to be removed including all wiring

3. exhaust noise/ emissions to comply ( she never tested this my car is quiet as )

4. pod filter to be removed and appropriate filter with housing to be fitted.

5. blow off valve fitted to comply

6. vehicle not to be driven after specified time until all faults rectified ( she gave me 1 hour to get home ) and i was further than that from my home. i got home 40 mins late and it was a very nervy drive home as i went past 4 cops

im gonna pursue this every way i can, as far as im concerned this is blatant victimisation, she categorised me and got me every way she could.

it says on the defect it must be cleared at a full inspection station, by an authorised unregistered vehicle inspection station (AUVIS)

[ODessA]

she didnt take any pictures im quite sure she didnt, unless she busted some out with her police issue spy camera, infact, she only looked through under the hood for a short while and had this look on her face like she didnt really know what the f**k she was looking at and she didnt ask me anything about any of it.

she was more worried about finding all the drugs and weapons in my back seat.

she told me she wanted to check inside my car to check the seatbelts but she never gave the seatbelts in the back a look at all.