New World Record Horsepower Figure

[Quinny]

At the Holden vs Ford show this weekend (just gone), Eddy Tassones VZ Commodore ute made 1899rwhp, which is a new world record. The car has a 383 stroker V8 (based on the old Holden 5.0L block) with twin turbos, custom cam and manifold using 40psi and C16 fuel. Apparently they backed off before the redline because the engine was leaning out due to the fact it was not tuned properly (they only put the engine together the day before the event), so it only revved to 6500rpm, and the dyno graph indicates it will keep going. Summernats, here we come.

Edit: here are some pics. hopefully the guy I stole them off doesn't mind....

The dyno sheet below was taken after the second run, the third run was 1898.9rwhp.

Edited July 10, 2006 by Quinny

[Munna1]

Those turbos are huge how do you like lagggggg. Will be impressive to see what the car will make when tuned though

[NIS.26L]

At the Holden vs Ford show this weekend (just gone), Eddy Tassones VZ Commodore ute made 1899rwhp, which is a new world record. The car has a 383 stroker V8 (based on the old Holden 5.0L block) with twin turbos, custom cam and manifold using 40psi and C16 fuel. Apparently they backed off before the redline because the engine was leaning out due to the fact it was not tuned properly (they only put the engine together the day before the event), so it only revved to 6500rpm, and the dyno graph indicates it will keep going. Summernats, here we come.

Edit: here are some pics. hopefully the guy I stole them off doesn't mind....

The dyno sheet below was taken after the second run, the third run was 1898.9rwhp.

thats just insane,do you know if he is definitely running the same engine that he had in the vk

[Quinny]

Yes it is the same engine from the VH, but it has been changed a fair bit. New turbos, plenum/intake, probably new cam, intercooler etc, I think the only thing the same is the 383 bottom end. It is making about 500rwhp more than the VH, so it has changed a fair bit.

Interestingly enough, if you were to see the boost graph, it makes over 600rwhp at 2000rpm, so the turbos may look laggy, but there is plenty of power down low. Don't forget they only revved it to 6500.

Edited July 10, 2006 by Quinny

[D-limo]

Whats the record? Forced induction under 6 litre's? Street rego? What fuel?

[Rezz]

I window tinted Active Automotives Pink VN last week for that event... when they came and picked it up, they didn't say anything about that ute... what a monster.

[Quinny]

The official record was held by Brett Waine in his twin turbo 372ci VC commodore, that was 1470.8rwhp on pump. Eddy's VH made 1376 on pump, and 1525 on C16. This figure was done on C16, but once the car is tuned, I would say it will get a tune for pump fuel for use at Summernats. Also, Brett Waines car is street registered, not sure about this thing.

Edited July 10, 2006 by Quinny

[Savage Bliss]

Now that's just silly.

[NIS.26L]

Yes it is the same engine from the VH, but it has been changed a fair bit. New turbos, plenum/intake, probably new cam, intercooler etc, I think the only thing the same is the 383 bottom end. It is making about 500rwhp more than the VH, so it has changed a fair bit.

Interestingly enough, if you were to see the boost graph, it makes over 600rwhp at 2000rpm, so the turbos may look laggy, but there is plenty of power down low. Don't forget they only revved it to 6500.

looks like the same plenum,do you know what gear box he runs

[Quinny]

Not sure what box, I will see if I can find out. The logical choice would be the T56 6 speed. He used to use a T5 in his VH for dyno runs and a powerglide for the track. I know that this thing has a manual, I will find out exactly what.

[JCMarshall_Law]

Insane! I would really like to know what is like to drive a car like this? That is almost 1 kW/kg!

[Quinny]

Well, the guy who owns the TRYHRD VX Clubsport (1200+rwhp), reckons that the Clubby is more drivable and better behaved than his Ferrari F355 that he uses as his daily driver.

If set up properly, there is no reason that it can't be driven. Mind you, Eddy Tassones cars are alot crankier than TRYHRD too. TRYHRD is so sedate, that if you didn't see the dyno readout, you wouldn't even believe how much power it makes. It is quiet and well behaved, it almost seems stock.

[Haysey]

Got Traction? obviously not!

[Freddy Kruger]

what do mean "got lag?"? it is a 383ci v8 (almost a 6.3L)... not a 153ci rb25 or something

[R31Nismoid]

Good power indeed

What turbos are they?

gotta love the BOV's pointing to the sky

Every 15yr old kid's dream hehe

Just looking @ the numbers though

Ambient Temp: 19 deg

Intake Temp: 230 deg

If going from IT: 30 to IT: 60 can give a large power increase... imagine going from 19 to 230... the power correction figure would be astronimical.

I wonder if they had it on an engine dyno before putting it into the car.

They would be interesting numbers, not Dyno Dynamics "interesting" correction values.

230 degrees intake temp indeed.

[Quinny]

I asked that very question myself. I have been assured by someone who was a competitor there (not sure if you have heard of the PSI-355 VR SS commodore with 900rwhp - the guy who owns that was competing there on the day) that on that particular run the inlet temp sensor failed causing it to revert to it's default setting which is 230. He said that Dyno Dynamics have assured that it did not affect power figures in anyway, and the sensor was fixed for the next run which was 1898.9rwhp. The guy who owns PSI-355 said that he tried putting the inlet temp sensor in the exhaust to see what would happen, his 900rwhp car gained 20hp, so it appears that the inlet temp does not have as much of an affect with high hp as it does with low hp.

I am no expert, just relaying information from people who were there. This is the actual quote which the owner of PSI-355 put up on the Street Commodores chat forum when I made a comment about the intake temp:

UD_LOSE: ALL WRONG..........This was the first issue they sorted out last night

Halfway through the second run the intake temp sender failed and went into default as 230 is the default code!!!!!!!! it was confirned last night that this had no affect on the figres by Mr Dyno Dynamics, Peter Humphrys so b4 you start shootin ya mouths off get ya facts STRAIGHT

Eddy will back up his numbers as he always does time and time again he does'nt need to defend himself he is as has been NO1 for years and proved this in every state!!!!

I hope he does roll this into summernats would be entertaining 2 say the least

good day

Edited July 10, 2006 by Quinny

[Quinny]

With regard to the turbos, I am not sure what they are, they are Garrett and they are big. Here is a pic of the engine bay.

[Sydneykid]

Does that one have to be pluged into a power point to get the electricity necessary to run it? The alternator doesn't have sufficient output to run the fuel pumps, igntion etc so it needs to be plugged into 240 volts to run.

cheers

PS; How can it be a World Record when I saw a supercharged big block door slammer make 2500+ hp on hub dyno is Las Vegas about 10 years ago?

[Quinny]

I think it is a record for a small block engine. I will definitely be a record for pump fuel once it gets retuned.

[SKYBEE]

eddy must have found himself a new tuner

last time in the vh the engine was still on the original anthony roderigeous tune from two years ago ( of course with some tweaking but nothing major changed for two hole years) and still goin strong

the last time i saw eddy run his vh was probably the last time it made good horse power! - it was spewing water out every where and did its final two runs with the radiator cap loose

im sure that alternator tucked down there would be decent sucker 100amp or something

fuel pumps would cause a draw but the car only gets run flat piss for 30 seconds MAX at a time so the load would beable to be kept up with for that short while

any ways

will be very interesting to see him again at summernats should be a good show down with craig munros vx