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If it was me I would buy the GTR but not for cops or for legality. Its just a better car. That said a lot of people have said that a nicely modded gtst is more fun than a gtr as it is a bit more 'on edge' being rwd. Having driven a number of gtsts and GTR's I would say that a GTR has much less useable power on the street. Stab the throttle at 3000rpm and the gtst will go. Stab it in the gtr and nothing will really happen for a while.

The Gtr is therefore not as quick a car just driving around on the street. You can can use the power legally on a gtst where as with a gtr you are going pretty quick when you are using the power.

Another point is how fast the car 'feels' a 250rwkw skyline feels MUCH MUCH faster than a 250rwkw GTR. I have been in an 11 sec gtr (300rwkw) that felt slower than a 230rwkw 33gtst. I'm not kidding! To me that is important because I would rather go slower and feel the speed that be travelling faster and it feel slower. I don't drive to go fast I drive to enjoy it. Most people would agree.

As far as modifying a skyline is concerned and the legalitys, you can easily modify one these days and get it engineered and never have a problem. Costs $500-700 if you consult them before you start modifying and the entire car is legal.

To answer your question about what I would do if I spent it on the gtst I would do the following: (I have tried to be reasonably conservative)

HKS GTRS- $2500- has useable power with enough grunt to make over 270rwkw

injectors- $900

Fuel pump- $350

Cams- $700

Power fc- $1000

Labour to put the above in and tune- ~$1400

You will now have up to 280rwkw depending on how hard you are prepared to push the motor with very little lag. One guy made 300.

Suspension

Bilstein shocks and whiteline springs- $1200rrp (might be able to get them cheaper through the club)

whiteline handling pack- $700

Fit and wheel alignment- $800

Wheels

17 inch buddy clubs would be my choice- $1650 new

Tyres- $1000 for really good ones

Stereo- $1200 has me satisfied

I have just spent nearly $15k. Some of you will think some of the prices are high while some are low but I have tried to be conservative. I have seen all these products for the above prices or cheaper. Labour depends greatly on where you take it and how good they are.

I personally wouldn't push the standard bottom end past 250rwkw which the GTRS could do but doesn't have to. Tune the car with 1-1.2 bar and it will probably make around that power and last forever even if you do track days. No point spending all that money if your not going to use it.

If you did all this first thing I would recommend would be a skidpan day and track day to start to get a handle on it. The car would be a mid 12 second car probably even faster with a good driver even on street tyres. In a gtst that is really fast. You won't catch yourself getting 'used' to the power too quickly if at all.

My 2c.

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After putting some thought into this, the skyline is getting a greddy front mount, electronic boost controller and a power fc fitted in three weeks time.

On thursday I am taking one of these puppies for a spin:

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Decided to have two toys to play with

Thanks for all the suggestions, will let you know if i maim myself on the r6

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