What To Do?

[GtSkylinePeTe]

Im turning 17 at the end of this year and hopefully i will have

17grand saved for my car, I am thinking about buying a GTS r33 skyline. I could however continue to save my money and end up having about 20grand and be able to buy a GTST however do you think it is a bad idea buying a turboed skyline because of my age and also lack of driving experience. And if i do end up getting a GTS would i eventually be able to turbo it to bring it up to the gtst standards without having to spend alot of money. And is it worth importing a GTS skyline into australia, becuase prestiage imports look like they can import them very cheap to me.

Anyways just looking for some advice on what i should do.

Cheers!.

[GtSkylinePeTe]

Hahaha yeah big business that would be $$$

Im kinda tryin to decide between a gts or gtst but im sure about r33 just like the look and overall like the car.

PS: will a r33 gts skyline (2.5L) N/A beat a 1993 Pulsar sss.

If not i am gettin a gtst.

[Roy]

You are only young and (its up to you how stupid) once. I was driving a 427 Impala at 18, enjoy cars before the govt legislate us off the roads.

Either way be sure your parents will do insurance for you, as i woudnt recommend not having comprehensive insurance.

Sounds like your after an R33, did you know that the R32 came out with the RB25 in 93, so similar age to some of the R33s you may be looking at, lighter so better performance, and most likey cheaper.

I think they even have 5 stud wheels and bigger brakes then the the NA RB20s found in earlier R32s

Maybe if you start exporting Byron's finest local product to Sydney you may be able to afford an R34 GTR:D

[GtSkylinePeTe]

Well......

Im not really looking for a $#@% load of power right now,

However in say 2 or so years i will be so i was woundering if i should get a Gts and just do overall body mods to it then after i while get a half cut gtst or the gtst engine and contiinue from there.??

Wat u reckon

[Blade]

Im 17 aswell

I was 99% sure in buying my r32 the only thing which pursuaded me not to buy it and wait a bit longer was the fact that i was told it was too powerful and yes if ur un experienced its dangerous for urslelf and to other drivers...

If u are a sensible driver and can control urself sure go for it...

But u only have 17k and you wont get insured comprhensively for anythign less then 5 or 6k so u better keep saving...

3rd party is useless cause theirs a high risk ur gonna crash with such a potent car once in ur first year of having it..or u may not depending on how sensible u are...its really not worth gettin it unless u have enough for insurance and cash aside to pay for ur repairs...

try a 3 litre non-turbo supra im sorta lookin at those now aswell

My mate has a non turbo skyline and its pretty weak...it gets beaten by friggin vti-r civics

[33Spec2]

I hav a n/a skyline and its done me well as a first car but hopefully soon ill b able 2 swap it 4 a turbo! i think that you would hav to do an engine swap to make it a turbo as internals and setup is differrent

[Roy]

I dont think converting NA Skylines to turbo is a great idea. It can be done, and plenty of people do it, but i dont know if they have... the same boxes, diffs, driveshafts, radiators, brakes not juct discs but master cylinders and brake boosters, or even a chasis that is as rigid.

If they have most of the above in common, great otherwise id be inclined to trade in for a turbo model.

...as for them having lots of power, i suspect a std family car will get most young guys in more trouble, as the boost and response of the engines means you are often on the exit of corners before power comes on, wheres as big 6s deliver torque on demand and can throw them sideways, perhaps easier. Im surprised i made it to 26 with friends driving their parents VN Commodores when i was 17.

No doubt they are quick little jiggers, but because of the competent chassis and suspension, in my opinion they can feel a little underpowered from the factory.

... whichever way you go, enjoy.

[CanberraR33]

If I was you dude, I'd get the NA and then latter trade up to a turbo. I think a Turbo at 17 is pretty risky. I'm only 19 and have a turbo. I look at some of my friends my age and I think they'd be dead if they had a turbo. It comes back to maturity. I think when you first get your license though having a turbo isn't a great idea. Having lost people I know in car accidents, I'm inclined to tell you to get a few years experience before going down the turbo road. Besides, build up a bit of no claim bonus and It'll drop the insurance down a bit too.

Just my 2 cents.

[Guest 4NGI3]

Hi all, i was wondering if i can get some first-hand advice from anyone of u skyline owners.

I'm getting a '95 gtst soon and i wanted to know if u think its a good deal. ok, its got a gtr bodykit, intercooler, air pod, blow off valve, 64,000kms, and a good audio system but not the BEST, and its 22,900. is that a good deal? am sooo in lurrve with this car but i don't want to be hasty and get it just because i'm in love with it. i also want to make sure its a good deal too!

also i'm going from a lancer to this and its my DRREAM car but i must admit i don't know anyone who has a skyline. so i thought this would be the best place to get some quality advice. so i've got a few questions...

1. is the whole fuel factor REALLY bad? like does it really chew thru fuel that bad? bare in mind i'm going from a lancer gli to gtst.

2. if u have a prang, is it REALLY expensive to fix? and are parts in general hard to find and/or outrageously pricey?

3. coz its a turbo, does it have to be tuned every 3 mths or something? that's what i've heard.

4. what other types of running costs besides the usual service every 15,000 kms.

that's all i can think of at the mo'. but i'm sure i'll have more questions later. btw this site is wikid, its soo informative and helpful. i can't wait to get my skyline, get a sticker and a top and go on a cruise, woo hoo!!

[Maxx]

to GtSkylinePeTe

get a N/A one for around $16000? then play around with it for 1 or 2 years, then trade for a R34 GTT

N/A R33 beat a SSS, it's a skyline!

1. my car run 350-370km a tank, around a$60?

2.i don't think they are expensive to fix and there are plenty of parts around, it only cost u a forture when u want NEW parts...

3. NO! but for nissan car(skyline, silvia) to keep it at top condition, service every 5000kms (oil changing) with good oil but not 15000kms

4. tyres!!:burnout:

[CanberraR33]

4NGI3:

1. I get about 370km around town, 450km on a highway run. Just did a 220 km tank at Wakefield today!

I came from a 2001 Holden Astra that got 650kms around town and 800kms on the highway, plus it had a smaller tank!

2. I reckon if you hit the rear quarter panel it would be $$$. Dunno. Certainly there are a heap of parts around.

3. I do a major service every 10,000kms and an oil & oil filter change every 5,000kms.

4. The constant adiction to mods!

[Roy]

Hell if thats the fuel economy you get out of an RB25, my jigger (RB20)gets 480-530kms a tank. Thats pretty much a 60/40 city/freeway mix.

I have noticed i get better economy with Optimax, but no pinging with BP Ultimate.

[CanberraR33]

I use Optimax too

[Guest 4NGI3]

Thanks so much for ur input Maxx, CanberraR33! It would seem that I'm going from $30 a week in petrol to $50. i guess $20 isn't too much to sacrifice for a bit of style hey?

Roy, just one question, if i was "Pinging" with BP Ultimate, what exactly would i be doing? basically what does "pinging" refer to? i appologise i'm not "down" with the lingo yet. :newbie:

[Guest Boxhead]

i would suggest get a turbo, but be aware of your limits!!!, and also, dont mod it for a while, keep it as stock as possible, even exhuast, that should limit the power a bit, until you have gained a yr or so experience....

also, maybe start learning on if you have had 0 hrs practice, on a anotehr car, maybe your parents etc.

[GtSkylinePeTe]

OK here is my plan get a r33 gts and try to do my best with

the car, just do the basic mods but not go over the top.

While i have the gts i would try to be saving money to get a gtst when i am more experienced and at the age of about 20-25.

As long as it beats for average 4 cyl car (pulsar sss) im happy.

Also how much would you pay for a gts, and is it a good idea to import one if so where and who would i import it through.

[33Spec2]

4 an R33 12000 - 17000 depending on year and where you buy it from - hav a look at prices in ya local paper

[Timmy G]

I got my GTST when I was 20 - moving up from my 1st car, an N15 auto Pulsar.

You're gunna get screwed on comprehensive insurance and you need to really be careful if you get a T.

I was initially looking at a GTS, only cos I didn't think I could afford a GTST. I waited a little longer and got what I really wanted and didn't look back.

[Roy]

4GNI3... Pinging aka, detonation, its basically when the air fuel mix combusts before the spark plug fires to ignite the mixture. Bad fuel, too much igntion, temperature, boost, compression, are seen as the main reasons for it occurring. Sounds a little lack pins rattling around in a tin can.

Some Jap cars tend to do it as they are tuned for better quality Jap fuel, ever noticed how Jap Silvia and WRX all have higher power ratings in Japan.

[CanberraR33]

Yes the fuel in Australia sucks. It sucks a lot!

4GN13 I have heard pretty good things about prestige, and they seem like nice ppl to do business with. I nearly bought a car of them but found one localy just before I ordered it.

The benefit of buying local is you know exactly what your getting and you can get a mechanic to look it over. If you import you will get it cheaper but not everyone gets a good import. Most are happy but some are rather disapointed.

Of course with the new laws in regards to importing, you will have to get a car in stock form, or pay to have it returned to stock form and the modified parts distroyed. Just something to bare in mind.