Hsv Astra Vxr/xr5t In Motor Mag

[Busky2k]

Was in Woolies readin the latest Motor mag and they had a review of the aformentioned cars. Of course the first thing I flip to is the performance data. What stunned me most is these cars are pulling 109/110mph traps? How can that be possible? You need ~200rwkw in an S15 or a tad more in a R33 to do so. And these cars have substantially less power and more weight. The power to weight ratios are no better than a stock R33/S15.

Anyone smell BS?

[mad082]

are you saure they are saying that they are hitting that speed buy the end of the 1/4 mile, or do they just have the times it takes for them to hit those speeds. as any info i can find on the xr5t says it takes over 16 seconds to hit 100mph, which would put it well past 400m.

[Busky2k]

Nah they are hitting those speeds at the end of the 1/4 mile (traps). Makes me wonder about MOTOR's credibility...

[AzzurrA]

hrm, well, i know the Mazda 3 MPS has a better power/weight ratio than an R33... i think it weighs in at approx 1350 - 1400kg and has approx 190kw, and a shiteload of torque (close to 400nm at low revs)

is definitely going to be a quick little car.

[mad082]

i have a quite a few motor mags and they don't usually do 1/4 mile runs at the drag strips. they usually bolt a big thing to the side of the car that has a wheel that runs on the ground.

most of the tests i have seen (infact all of them) have the times it takes for the car to get up to about 160-170kmh, even though they might do the 1/4 at 155kmh.

but either way i'm going to go to the newsagent tomorrow and check it out.

[Busky2k]

Yeah I understand the rolling time vs kmh as they all do in mags. But they quoted 13.5 @ 176kmh for the HSV Astra, going by memory? Thats friggin fast, just too fast for the specs on paper!

[GTR32GUS]

For Holden and Ford I think motor mag does the 1/4 times by droppind them off a 400m high cliff

[WazR32GTSt]

i smell something... and it ain't the fart i just did... but it does smell quite similar

[Bliksem]

For Holden and Ford I think motor mag does the 1/4 times by droppind them off a 400m high cliff

:laughing-smiley-014: this comment ftw

[Kushil Abeysinghe]

Shit !, read about the MAZDA 3 MPS and watch the fifth gear review on it....thats things got a SHiT Load of tourqe....too much i will say.....my stock r33 will be blown to bits if that 390NM got stuck in to me....

[AzzurrA]

what's scary, is i actually wouldn't mind one

[Bliksem]

my stock r33 will be blown to bits if that 390NM got stuck in to me....

This is probably exactly what their saying on the street commy site right now

[dangerous_daveo]

Gearing maybe?

Id go the ford tho, seems a better car than the astra. I think the mazda 3 mps is just stupid. People are going to die because of that car.

[BreathLess]

my mum has one of those cars

[dead32]

xr5 has tad over 300nm of torque from 1800rpm onwards, as a result the 6 speed has tripple synchros first 2nd and 3rd gear, plus a proportioning valve in the hydro clutch (clutch in you cant rev dump) . nifty lil car, ive driven them, not to sure bout the holden however.

[LTHLRB]

i work for ford, and have had a xr5 in and been in one when being driven, nothing compared to my r33 gtst with 205rwkw even on 7psi my skyline feels faster. These cars do hit high speeds, but no way are they 13 second cars... No way in hell. If the GT-P is a 14.0 second car or thereabouts and the typhoon is 13s or so, the xr5 is nowhere near as fast as either of these cars.

[dead32]

ur comparing a 205kw rear wheel drive skyline, to a factory fwd turbo overpriced focus lol, i also work for ford and i own a skyline, id still take my car over xr5 but theyre 2 totaly different ballgames

[Kushil Abeysinghe]

i dont have 205rwkw..would't mind though.......but bugger....scary thing is my GF likes that car and she likes the Mazda.....

so all of these are FWD right....do there have trickly hitech LSD like honda type r....otherwise how on earth do you put the power down.....

[mad082]

ok, well i have the mag. and yes they do have the figures as-

astra 0-100= 5.29 seconds and 0-400m= 13.42 @ 176.8kmh

xr5t 0-100=5.41 seconds and 0-400m= 13.52 @ 174.9kmh....

however if you read through the article it says the astra does 0-100 in6.7 and the xr5t in 7.5 and across the 1/4 mile are 14.75 for the astra and 15.38 for the xr5t. this got me thinking that someone had cocked up. so i flicked through for another 6 or 7 pages and come across a comparison of the bmw z4 m roadster and the mercedes-benz slk55, and do you know what? guess what the performance times for they are. thats right, bmw z4 0-100= 5.29 seconds and 0-400m= 13.42 @ 176.8kmh and mercedes-benz 0-100=5.41 seconds and 0-400m= 13.52 @ 174.9kmh

so there we have it. they cocked up after all.

[WazR32GTSt]

typical..