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Can Someone Explain Pod Air Filters To Me

AlexR34

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Hi i installed a pod airfilter in my r34 sedan skyline, and from what im reading from many posts here they are a defect unless they are in a box, my point is if i wanted to put it in a box i would have bod a panel filter. So if someone could clear this topic for me that would be great, i do have a problem with reading and tend to miss alot of stuff lol.

And if it is a defect what is the fine if i get done for it and are there demerit points involved.

Thanks

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R33S2 Grand Master

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From what I understand a Pod is ok if it is secured to the car with a bracket, not just attached with the inlet air pipe, when like that they can flop around. Thats what they checked for on mine anyway.

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Yeah Terry im with you on this one...

Secured is my understanding, not just flopping around. I am however going to do something very cool shortlly with the new upgrades which will kill 2 birds with one stone...

Im going to put the pod in the front bar where the stock intercooler was. This will separate the pod from the engine bay and a plus will be that the hole in the front bar will supply the air filer with cool fresh air...

The Dan Grand Master

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There is no law pertaining to pod filters. It's a crock and they all know it.

Secured means attached to the air pipe, not filter secured to the body of the car. However, they will still defect you for it. When a cop defects you for something....if you ask for it, they must state the defect code or state the exact reason for defect....not just because it seems like it could be defectable.

Spook's_Skyline Mentor

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Im going to put the pod in the front bar where the stock intercooler was. This will separate the pod from the engine bay and a plus will be that the hole in the front bar will supply the air filer with cool fresh air...

ive had my pod down there for a few years now (well, a bit lower, down right in front of the left front wheel)

no real dramas, other than the pod gets dirty real quick

moving it back to the engine bay on monday though

Konrad Grand Master

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There is no law pertaining to pod filters. It's a crock and they all know it.

Secured means attached to the air pipe, not filter secured to the body of the car. However, they will still defect you for it. When a cop defects you for something....if you ask for it, they must state the defect code or state the exact reason for defect....not just because it seems like it could be defectable.

not true, i had this discussion with my flatmate about 1hr ago. Police can defect you for anything, even nothing! they just have to have suspicion that your car is non compliant to ADR rules, they are not mechanics and dont even need to specify defects on a defect notice- just say defective vehicle and let the transport dept figure out if its ok or not.

AlexR34 Proficient

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Yeah Terry im with you on this one...

Secured is my understanding, not just flopping around. I am however going to do something very cool shortlly with the new upgrades which will kill 2 birds with one stone...

Im going to put the pod in the front bar where the stock intercooler was. This will separate the pod from the engine bay and a plus will be that the hole in the front bar will supply the air filer with cool fresh air...

Oh Owsome ive seen that done looks absolutely amazing.

HOT_R33 Proficient

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not true, i had this discussion with my flatmate about 1hr ago. Police can defect you for anything, even nothing! they just have to have suspicion that your car is non compliant to ADR rules, they are not mechanics and dont even need to specify defects on a defect notice- just say defective vehicle and let the transport dept figure out if its ok or not.

If QT find that there is no problem with the car, does the fine and the demerit point deduction still stand??

Mr-Toy33 Grand Master

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If QT find that there is no problem with the car, does the fine and the demerit point deduction still stand??

yes, cause once the cops have written the notice of defect against your car and issued you with the fine, it stands until you take it through the courts to have it dismissed.

QLD Transport rules can not override anything a police officer says, only the courts can.

Pretty dodgy rules and system we have considering QLD Transport are suppose to have more power over registered vechicles then cops these days.

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not true, i had this discussion with my flatmate about 1hr ago. Police can defect you for anything, even nothing! they just have to have suspicion that your car is non compliant to ADR rules, they are not mechanics and dont even need to specify defects on a defect notice- just say defective vehicle and let the transport dept figure out if its ok or not.

That's like saying the cop can fine you because your paint is too red. They are not allowed to defect you without good reason and if they do defect you they must be able to explain the defect and why it is defectable. You may have had police that have defected you for no reason before but that does not mean that it is correct to do so. Try standing up for your rights, they are there to serve you, not punish you.

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yes, cause once the cops have written the notice of defect against your car and issued you with the fine, it stands until you take it through the courts to have it dismissed.

QLD Transport rules can not override anything a police officer says, only the courts can.

Pretty dodgy rules and system we have considering QLD Transport are suppose to have more power over registered vechicles then cops these days.

So, I'd have to organize to go to court just becuase some idiot cop doesn't know what they're tlking about??

Thats, bloody stupid!!

Rhinorebel Grand Master

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Thats, bloody stupid!!

Ladies and Gentlemen!!!! We have a winner!!! Yes, finally someone gets the point!! Some of our police are nazis!! They are drunk with power and will issue defects to anyone they think deserves it.

Now, most police are diligent members of society who understand that the power they wield is not meant to be used at their discression, but when a citizen is placing themselves and others at risk or blatantly breaking the law.

Yes, the system sucks and while the minority of "hoons" continue to make the press salivate, we will ALL suffer for their idiocy.

Mr-Toy33 Grand Master

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So, I'd have to organize to go to court just becuase some idiot cop doesn't know what they're tlking about??

Thats, bloody stupid!!

yep! sure do.

goodluck with it.

unfortantly, the government are more then happy to waste money on defecting people and putting them all through the courts to have fines dismissed.

It cause of this, money isnt being better spent on our roads and safety of them.

Col-GTSX Grand Master

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It would not get wet because it would be up in the top of the guard... Right under the standard intercooler hole. So unless you have a pod thats a foot long at wont even bee seen from the front. So rain will go through there but it will only get slightlly damp....

Just no flood water. But who would take a skyline through flood water... :P

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Some comments regarding this discussion. My sister was "defected" by an officer last year in her R32 skyline which prompted me to investigate the issue of complience with ADRs and Qld Law. Unless the officer is an approved inspector he/she can only issue you an infringement notice if they reasonably suspect your car does not comply with ADRs and the modification guide.

With respect to the issue of pod filters I rang the Modification group and they advised that there is no rule regarding the use of pod filters although they stated that should you install one it should be equivalent to at least the original filter. They used a K&N filter as an example of an acceptable filter. Furthermore they stated that the car must continue to comply with the relevant ADR for emissions.

No comment regarding securing the filter was stated however it is generally accepted that the installation of a pod filter or anything else for that matter, must be in accordance with good engineering practice as is the stated requirement for the installation of intercoolers.

When my sister had the car inspected by QT the inspecting officer poked at her filter for a period and given it was a foam filter asked her to replace it. I understand the foam filter is considered a fire hazard (my observations only).

I have a copy of all the ADRs and although I haven't done an exhaustive search I have found nothing regarding air filters as confirmed by the Modifications group.

Hope this adds to the discussion.

Cheers

The Dan Grand Master

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Hope this adds to the discussion.

Cheers

Nah, just adds to the truth that's already been told. It really is a shame when you can't even drive your car to the end of the street without being harassed by police. I have pretty much lost all respect for traffic police for this reason. I even had to write a letter to the ombudsman to have them stop doing it.

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