Ve Commodore

[The_Paladin]

Okay so HSV has officially set the world record for worlds Fastest Ute, their clubsport R8's and their soon to be re-vived GTS isnt anything to shy away from and say "err its just a family car, what a piece of shit"

Why does a ute need to go fast? is the tradie going to be late for work or something?

Typhoon has the highest torque output of any production engine ever built in Australia.

so it's the best of the worst. australia dosent make sports cars.

And as you say 4wd's are better at towing than Commodores etc but they are deathtraps

correct, however most of joe public isnt as car savy as most on SAU and dont realise this. the women who buy or infulence the purchase of such vehicles precieve them to be safe because of their size. Safty (even though there is a lack of) is one of the main reasons consumers listed for purchasing a 4WD, i read that in some RACQ thing ages ago.

[kralster]

Get over the FPV/HSV bashing.

I would not be suprised if a FPV or HSV would be faster around a race track compared to a stock Silivia, or GTST Skyline.

[INASNT]

You guys read the latest issue of MOTOR?

The VE shares the same componets as the new concept CAMARO soon to be released in the states, which will also make way for the new MONARO in 2009.

[Roy]

Why does a ute need to go fast? is the tradie going to be late for work or something?

so it's the best of the worst.

I would have one, tools in the back for when i go to track days, able to towe a track car. Pick up gear in teh back no probs. My brother had a ute, and didnt need one for work. Once you have one you really get use to the practicality of it.

so it's the best of the worst. australia dosent make sports cars.

LOL...call them what you like...they are fast. The Clubsport Track Spec one is quicker then EVO 8, 350Z etc around Oran Park...so dismiss them if you like, but only reason i dont have one is i cant afford one

[Pantera999]

I would own an F6 Typhoon anyday.

[Rezz]

Get over the FPV/HSV bashing.

I would not be suprised if a FPV or HSV would be faster around a race track compared to a stock Silivia, or GTST Skyline.

Yeah me neither... lol

In order to make that comparison fair, you'd have to use a Nismo modified Silvia or Skyline...

Enough with comparing late model HSVs with old stock Skylines. At the end of the day, the HSVs and Fords whatever are bigass GT sedans, the likes of which Japanese car companies don't sell in this country. So any comparison with something Japanese is going to be irrelivent. The Holdens and Fords appeal to a certain type of person, most of which frequent other boards.

[MK2]

Enough with comparing late model HSVs with old stock Skylines. At the end of the day, the HSVs and Fords whatever are bigass GT sedans, the likes of which Japanese car companies don't sell in this country.

About the closest they've got is the SC430's and some of the other stuff they hurl around in the GT300 and GT500 races. For a 'rough' (very rough!) comparison of sorts, be interesting too see some of the 3U V8's with the taps opened up on them for Australian V8 supercars.

Course, that'll never happen...

[Rezz]

About the closest they've got is the SC430's and some of the other stuff they hurl around in the GT300 and GT500 races. For a 'rough' (very rough!) comparison of sorts, be interesting too see some of the 3U V8's with the taps opened up on them for Australian V8 supercars.

Course, that'll never happen...

I was pretty suprised Toyota chose the current UZZ40 Soarer as their SuperGT platform. I would suddenly be interested in Aussie touring car racing if that car was competing next year...

[kralster]

Rezz.

If you are going to quote me it means you cannot edit my post.

Edited July 24, 2006 by kralster

[AdamsR33]

Rezz you slackjawed junkbroad minded person.

If you are going to quote me it means you cannot edit my post.

lmao junkbroad minded person hahaha

[Rezz]

Rezz you slackjawed junkbroad minded person.

If you are going to quote me it means you cannot edit my post.

Since your pulling the cuss words out, I'll change my quoted post right away. In future PM me about it and refrain from name calling.

[Bliksem]

http://blogs.drive.com.au/2006/07/new_comm...o_you_thin.html

Interesting blog on the Drive website that I came accross whilst trying to suss out what they all think on streetcommodores.com.au

Interestingly about the only thing they are commenting on at the street commy forum is the height of the SS at the rear

Edited July 24, 2006 by MintR33

[kralster]

I just think it's a great insult, nothing personal.

[monaroCountry]

Funny how people automatically bag Holden, Ford and even the struggling Mitsubishi for being inefficient.

Note that the Camry has FWD, 2.4L engine, less power and torque and a lighter body (increased by only 30kg) – yet only gets 9.9L per 100km. The Holden VE has a heavy body (increased by 100kg), far stiffer chassis, more room, more power, more torque and a 3.6L v6 – yet achieves a 10.9L per 100km.

I would call the new Camry as inefficient whilst the 380, Holden and especially the 6speed Ford as being extremely efficient.

Just in from Drive.com.au

New Camry in role reversal

Joshua Dowling, The Sydney Morning Herald, 25/07/06

-Toyota released the new, sixth generation Camry today but it has the unlikely tag of being the thirstiest vehicle in its class.

-The new Camry's fuel rating label shows an average consumption of 9.9 liters per 100km, even though it is now available with a five-speed automatic transmission, which is designed to provide better economy at highway speeds.

-While Holden yesterday announced a fuel saving for its biggest-selling model in the new Commodore range, the new Camry's consumption remains the same as the model it replaced.........The car is a little heavier about 30kg than the old model

-The new Camry's main rivals are more fuel-efficient

-It's an embarrassing move for the maker which prides itself on fuel economy. The Camry is a globally-developed car, manufactured around the world, and the product of a much bigger development budget than the Commodore.

-A week ago, Toyota claimed that its V6 Commodore rival (called the Aurion and due on sale in November) would be more fuel-efficient than the new Holden Commodore

-The new Camry is available only with a 2.4-litre four-cylinder engine; the V6 will be exclusive to the Aurion.

From

http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleD...18735&vf=12