Hks Fconv Questions R33 Gtr

[GT-R LM]

hey guys my i found a HKS fconV the other day in my gtr it still has the standard computer and that wired as well so im guessing its a piggy back. Is it tunable? also there are two plugs on the back of it, what connects to them(inserted pic) ?

Thanks

[202.3rwkw]

dont qutoe me but i dont believe many tuners/workshops have the ability to tune a fconv in australia. maybe call a hks distrubotor in your stateto see who may have the software and ability to do so......

[Guest Mashrock]

Sydney,

and bd4's are the ones to speak to.

but sas can borrow software and crodon too i beleive?

other than that its kinda like a fully controlable piggyback. the standard is left to control all the a/c and other things... i think!!

hks fcon great computer if only there were more people here to tune them

[silver gts-t]

CRD doesnt tune the the fcon no more.

its not a piggy back at all, you can run it standalone but as mashrock said, the standard ecu is there for A/C and 1 other thing i cant recall

also are those 2 plugs male or female??

if they are female and small they could be the wires for the air temp and map sensors as they are an option

[Guest Mashrock]

Also.

from what i have been discussing with the uk blokes.

the hks navigator pro can tune the fcon V pro.. But you must be updated to the latest version

i'm waiting to hear more on this topic and i'm waiting on a preview/video on how its all done.

the plot thickens!

[silver gts-t]

bd4's can update your software to the latest they have..

i prefer to leave the tuning to the pro's

bd4's will promise you that if there is any probs with their tune later down the track for no apparent reason they will fix it for free

[rob82]

Just pull it out and tune the standard ECU. It will be better and cheaper than most aftermarket ECU's.

[silver gts-t]

Just pull it out and tune the standard ECU. It will be better and cheaper than most aftermarket ECU's.

lol

yeh all the jap tuners have no idea what they are doing.

[Guest Mashrock]

bd4's can update your software to the latest they have..

i prefer to leave the tuning to the pro's

bd4's will promise you that if there is any probs with their tune later down the track for no apparent reason they will fix it for free

yeah when i have eveything all together. and i am in need of a tune i'm booking it in.

but also will get the navigator pro as its only 3-400 bucks. and also does a bunch of other things.

[silver gts-t]

yeah when i have eveything all together. and i am in need of a tune i'm booking it in.

but also will get the navigator pro as its only 3-400 bucks. and also does a bunch of other things.

keep me posted..

[rob82]

lol

yeh all the jap tuners have no idea what they are doing.

I'm sorry was it tuned in japan for australian fuel and all the mods on the car?

[silver gts-t]

I'm sorry was it tuned in japan for australian fuel and all the mods on the car?

what is the price difference between retuning a standard ecu compared to a aftermarket unit??

have u had experience with both? if so please provide us with you breakdown of cost

[rob82]

what is the price difference between retuning a standard ecu compared to a aftermarket unit??

have u had experience with both? if so please provide us with you breakdown of cost

Hmmmm for me to tune it on our dyno - nothing.

[silver gts-t]

well if you have access to a free dyno then congrats..

for everyone else?? can you provide us with a $$ cost?

and your worshop recommends a remap over a aftermarket ecu? good luck with that..

i have dealt with both senarios and can say from personl experience, both performance wise and cost wise.. and aftermarket ecu is the go

[rob82]

well if you have access to a free dyno then congrats..

for everyone else?? can you provide us with a $$ cost?

and your worshop recommends a remap over a aftermarket ecu? good luck with that..

i have dealt with both senarios and can say from personl experience, both performance wise and cost wise.. and aftermarket ecu is the go

$595 for chip and $200/hr for dyno tune. Hmmmm let me see, compare development costs of a particular ECU made by a manufacturer for a particular car compared to that of an aftermarket ECU for a range of cars. I bet the devlopment cost for the aftermarket ECU to cover a range of cars is not within 1/5 of the development costs of the standard ECU produced by a team of engineers for that car.

When you've tuned both you can make that assumption and I've only come to this conclusion.

[silver gts-t]

so what your saying is that a standard ECU is perfected over a long period of time by a team of engineers..

then you have a aftermarket ecu which is also reasearched, tested etc by engineers for a 1/5 of the time..

then you have some worshop who remaps a perfect ecu over only a couple hours supposedly making is better than what those engineers can?

fact: if a standard remap is better and more cost effective then why isnt it everyones number one choice??

[rob82]

so what your saying is that a standard ECU is perfected over a long period of time by a team of engineers..

then you have a aftermarket ecu which is also reasearched, tested etc by engineers for a 1/5 of the time..

then you have some worshop who remaps a perfect ecu over only a couple hours supposedly making is better than what those engineers can?

fact: if a standard remap is better and more cost effective then why isnt it everyones number one choice??

Try reading it again - cant make it any easier to understand.

How many tuning shops in Australia know what they are doing or even have the ability to properly emulate and tune the factory managment? It is for this reason alone that it isn't more widely done. Remember nissans aren't the only cars that can be chipped or the standard managment reprogrammed.

[silver gts-t]

are you trying to make your point or make excuses?

your right!! not many shops can emulate and in this case we are talking about skylines only..

what are the advantages again??

[rob82]

are you trying to make your point or make excuses?

your right!! not many shops can emulate and in this case we are talking about skylines only..

what are the advantages again??

No. My point is I believe that the standard managment addresses all operating parameters of engine management better than most/all aftermarket ECU's.

[silver gts-t]

No. My point is I believe that the standard managment addresses all operating parameters of engine management better than most/all aftermarket ECU's.

anyway.. 2 different point of views drawn from different experiences. lol