Adjusting Light Angle Of R34 Headlights?

[SS8_Gohan]

Hi,

finally put in the HID kit into my R34, 8500k, thought was going to be stupidly blue but was pleasantly surprised, was actually ok.

But the light is still nothing special though, quite disappointed actually, and i think my headlights are pointing too far down. I've got the switch in the car that tilts the lights up and down, it does work, and i've got it as high as it will go but the light is still very low (angle).

Is there are a screw or something to manually life the anlge of light on 34 headlights?

cheers,

daniel

EDIT: sorry for the double thread, but going away for the weekend, country way and want to see if i can sort out the light issues before then.

[JUNR34]

I was going to post the same topic ....mine are too low as well also want to know how to adjust it manually.

Edited August 15, 2006 by JUNR34

[nsm034]

put a shifter on the back of the white things on the lights that look like cogs and turn them, one will adjust left - right the other up - down

[MANWHORE]

As i hve always said, expect shit light output. expect to glare people and expect to be defected. expect to cause an accident and ahve your insurance voided.

Read my views on aftermarket hid kits.

Pointing it up will give you a bit more distance, but less light in each of the areas.

[SS8_Gohan]

^ they are OEM Xenon headlight assembly's... i assumed that if i put Xenon globes back in assemblys that were DESIGNED for them, it would be ok...

i can't see how putting in a pair of Nissan Xenon globes would be any different. This is not a dodgy HID kit going into a set of headlights not designed for them.

[MANWHORE]

Wrong.

The bulbs used in these aftermarket kits sometimes have a different structure. that is, they are different length, focal point is in different place.

Secondly, because it's been converted to h1, the focal point is moved. Lighting optics are very fine. even 1-2 mm difference makes a world of difference. it is the difference between good and bad.

thirdly and most importantly, your car has a reflector housing. It hsould be using a d2r bulb. The ricer hid kits use d2s bulbs as a base - which means they don't have that shield ring painted onto it.

Afterall, I am only involved in a related area as my job..... (no, i'm not some mechanic at a compliance shop)

[SS8_Gohan]

went to nissan,

1) they don't sell nor can get in OEM Nissan Xenon globes -

2) they showed me two adjustment screws/cogs - 1 left/right, 1 for up/down (i'm not convinced my up/down works)

3) they said putting in Nissan globes wouldn't make a difference to light cutoff, they said if you've got Xenon globes in there, you've got Xenon globes in there.

i'm not convinced they knew much anyway... so i'm more inclined to believe 97r33gtst-typeM

is this what ppl's R34 Xenon headlights look like on the inside?

what is the cut-off like for OEM Xenon's anyway? is it as good as say the Honda Euro lights?

[MANWHORE]

It's not what it looks like there that matters. of course your reflector and that little cone shield will still be the same. Have a look at that black thing around the bulb - That is the bit which they change.

Most likely, this, when coupled wiht the h1 aftermarket kit has the bulb in a different position relative to the reflector, which is causing the shit light.

The only way to tell if this is the case, is to place your headlight with this bulb in it next to someone else's factory set up and check the position of the bulb. remember - 1-2mm makes a world of difference. Try it. face it at the wall and slide the bulb out slowly and watch the light change.

Correct me if i'm wrong, but was your car 'converted' such that it takes a h1 halogen bulb? If so, then everything I said above is correct.

Nissan does sell the factory xenon globes. the guy you saw doesn't know shit. He wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a penis pump and a headlight.

doesn't matter if they sell them anyways. Your housing can't take the d2r bulb anymore, because the fixing mechanism has been changed (the d2s/d2r/d2c bulbs have a large base - won't fit in the h1 hole).

Please understand that i'm not trying to trick you or anything. What benefit do I have to gain? I don't hate xenons or anyhting.

I'm just going by my experience.

Just to let you know, i've tried an aftermarket hid kit in a butchered 34 housing. The cutoff was shit. Hotspots everywhere.

When shone at the wall next to an oem light, my gosh....

I have contributed to many threads on lighting with another forum member called MANWHOR3. Ask 'Sir-D' or 'Xixor' if we know anyhting about lighting.

Edited August 17, 2006 by 97r33gtst-typeM

[MANWHORE]

PS Guys:

I'd highly suggest a lighting subsection to be created in this forum.

I can supply images of the light output of stock, v aftermarket gay ricer kits in all sorts of housing (reflector, projecto etc) as well as provide extensive explanations on issues such as these to save you guys money.

I'm guessing that you jumped onto the bandwagon and bought those $200 hid kits from china?

[SS8_Gohan]

Kaixen kit, made in Korea.

was led to believe that this kit was not cheapo, it was of high quality.

Well there you go, i couldn't get the globe to sit right, when i clamped it into place, it would always shift the globe so it pointed up a bit (you can see from the pic) I wondered if this would matter...

I rang a place in sydney that does the conversions for compliance, and there are about 3 ways of doing it. my way, get 4dr halogen assembly's or bend the reflectors, something like that..

so i was wondering if mine "assembly" had been altered, bent/cut, etc...

yes, was converted. But i think it was done in the least "destructive" way..

fixing mechanism... that's the one... can't get the globe to sit nice when i clamp it in.

i've asked OEM R34 owners and they said the lightout output is nothing special anyway, still quite low and poor throw, so i don't even know if the OEM lights have a nice cut-off like the honda euro ones...

i might try fiddling with the base of the globe, see if i can find some position that will help with the light.

[MANWHORE]

Of course yours has been butchered. you said so yourself. it was 'converted'.

Kaixen, or whatever other kits are shit.

Honestly, your best bet would be to source standard hid.

I'm actually going to stop replying now, because you seem to have your mind set on continuing with this. your choice.

As I said before, I've been there, done that on r34s and many other types of cars.

What makes your car special and able to defy the laws of physics?

[MANWHORE]

least destructive? what does that have to do with anything?

They altered the base. Plain and simple. That, coupled with your h1 hid kit most likely places the bulb at a different location.

Up above, I said that even a few mm makes the difference. It is not the fact that you can't fix it in properly, it is just the fact that it is in the wrong place.

Like I said, find osmeone with an oem hid setup and compare the lighting. I have done a test before. I have pictures too.

[SS8_Gohan]

i don't have my mind set on anything, i'm taking all you've said on board and agree TOTALLY that the light is shit, that it won't ever be as good as OEM and i need an OEM kit. I'm not disputing you there at all.

i'm just trying to make the best of a bad situation, ie, fiddle with the globe, see if i can get it a little sharper. Change the headlight angle, so i can see, just litting things whilst i either change back to halogen or source an OEM kit.

I've talked to a few OEM owners, so i'll see if i can compare side by side one. If you had any pictures you could post up, that would be most appreciated.

And if people are wondering about R34 adjustments, the screw on the far side of each assembly (nearest the front guards) controls Low-Beam left/right, the white cogs here..

controls the HI-beam up/down - have yet to find the Low-beam up/down... i don't eve know if there is a manual adjustment for it. I'm sure there must be somewhere.

daniel

[MANWHORE]

My pics are on my computer at home. I won't be going back there till uni break.