Lpg Conversion For Nissan Sklyines R33

[jetpilot]

Any further details on LPG kits for R33 Skylines ?

I know there are Injector kits out on the market now for naturally aspirated vehicles like Ford and Holden.

Anything for the Turbo category ?

[VB-]

Any further details on LPG kits for R33 Skylines ?

I know there are Injector kits out on the market now for naturally aspirated vehicles like Ford and Holden.

Anything for the Turbo category ?

yes one company is developing it for sale soon, the test car an XR6T with about 360rwkw. cant remember what company though, i'll have to dig up the magazine article

[WazR32GTSt]

i had my last car, an 87 NA supra, using LPG...

i swore to myself that i would never go LPG again..

the fitting of hte system had teething problems and didn't iron out for a few months

then there's the fact that a full tank gives you no mileage.. i used to fill up 3 times a week... what a damn hassle and waste of time

plus there's the loss of power. that's right power was noticeable reduced don't kid yourself. i have heard many ppl say that LPG produces the same power and that is rubbish

stay away!

[dead32]

not to mention mechanical failure if u dont prep the head for lpg, if you dont like the fuel bill of a turbo car, sell it...

[Bl4cK32]

my mate has a HQ caprice which had a 308 worked with 280Hp on LPG (~300Hp on petrol) and that car is damn fast. He built the thing to run on lpg, and its done 1million kms...(around the clock numerous times)

That is a damn fast car for its age, and the kms done. It does need a freshen up due to the kms, but still...im impressed

[Modena]

Correct me if im wrong but running a turbo car on gas is like being a bodybuilder on a vegie diet.

[mid life crisis]

i used to have a turbo rx3 that was lpg only and it went like a cat with deep heat on its nuts . gas and turbo;s actually go very well together the secret is getting it done by someone who knows what there doing not ya local lpg fitter that just does xf falcons and hq holdens .there are a lot of guys with performance cars running lpg. well i even seen a v8 range rover running a turbo and the gas going thru a 500 holley so it does work trouble is there are so many myths and half truths and just miss informed people who have this lpg attitude is crap mindset . find the right guy who is into performace lpg conversions and you might just be surprised

[skyline33]

I was talking to someone last week and they said they saw an R33 with LPG sticker on the number plate. which i thought was funny.

[assyrian4evaa]

any proven facts about this LPG is as good as petrol or wat???

i want to believe it but not unless i see proof i heard that gas has a higher octane than petrol is that true??

i agree wid ryan 100% about selling ur car if u dont like the fuel bill but bro prices just keep going up its rediculess

Edited August 20, 2006 by assyrian4evaa

[VB-]

well one of the people who i learnt from, told me that LPG is pretty damn good as a fuel. where now you pay $150 for 98 octane unleaded, i believe LPG is around 110 or 114 (just from memory, but could be wrong) if anyone knows for sure its octane, please let me know.

another bonus was its tuneability, or the lack of, as it would happily run from stupidly rich, to stupidly lean by petrol standards.

i think the biggest drawback at the moment is the lack of developement, and with the developement there is now, injectors still arent big enough to supply enough gas for serious power.

mid life crisis, did you ever have your car featured, as i'm sure i've seen one or two of those old rotors running LPG, quite succesfully

[Lachie]

Correct me if im wrong but running a turbo car on gas is like being a bodybuilder on a vegie diet.

Sorry for offtopic but some of the best bodybuilders in the past have been vegetarian (before it became all about your chemist, not about your diet). Check out Bill Pearl and Boyer Coe, two legends of bodybuilding, both of whom are vegetarian.

Personally i find it so much easier to build muscle on a vegetarian diet than on a meat one. As long as you have protein powder its fine, thats vegetarian (soy based).

On topic, I own an R33 GTS. Any idea on the costs of converting it to LPG? Its just a straight six so it should be pretty close to the N/A fords and holdens that get converted all the time, right?

Lachie

[RBwhatever]

The only gas that would go into my engine would be of the nitrous kind.

Who's with me???

[WazR32GTSt]

i'm with you...

piss off LPG!

[Mickyb]

I don't know much about the RB25DET but with some engines LPG causes cylinder head wear and valve seat issues. Petrol lubricates the combustion chamber, which is something that LPG does not do, so if your running straight gas then you will need to do more maintenence, more often. Plus the fact that is has about 22 mj/litre compared to around 33 mj/litre for petrol means that you need to burn more for the same power.

My mothers Falcon had LPG on it, it was gutless on LPG, I don't care what any body says if you run duel fuel you will have less power on LPG.

For a car such a Skyline, which is not the thirstiest vehicle around anyway, I wouldn't bother with it, you might save a bit of money, but if money was the primary factor you would be driving a Corolla.

/end rant

[WazR32GTSt]

yeah LPG conversion systems usually include an upper cylinder lube system...

i used to have a little tank in the engine bay that i fileld with oil to help with lubrication

[mattymagoo22]

LPG can be a good thing or a bad thing. 20 years ago octane ratings were around the 110 mark, now todays figures around the 94, which is pretty disappointing. The alloy head on the rb series motors would mean that the valve seats are already hardened, but its still a good idea to run a lubrication system to prevent VSR (Valve Seat Recession) and its a good idea if you've got dual fuel to run 2 tanks gas to 1 tank petrol to prevent fuel going off in tank and help to lube top end of engine.

I have seen some cars that run only on LPG return some very respectable figures from an sr20 220-230rwkw through to a blown 350 chev with no traction in any of its 3 forward gears! the down side is the amount of fuel needed to get these figures being in some cases twice as much as petrol, so when you add it all up its 6 of one half a dozen of the other not to mention where you fit a reasonably sized tank in an R33!

Don't know if I'm supposed to metion names, so I won't, but there is a place in Melbourne that has done great things with forced induction and LPG and also LPG injection. The money you might spend on injectors, fuel pumps and aftermarket EMS could be used to set up such a system!

It all comes down to one's preference really at the end of the day performance is the goal and you could go either way.

Cheers.

Edited August 25, 2006 by mattymagoo22