Just Replaced Timing Belt

[NiSmO`ChiCk]

i just got my r33 back from having the water pump and timing belt replaced

now the car is making a whiny rattling noise that was never there before, its worse when its idling and just sounds like its running crap

was thinking maybe they did the tensioner too tight or something?

anyone got any ideas? and could i be doing any damage to the engine driving it like this?

[grigor]

Take it back.

Did you get tensioner and idler changed when the timing belt was done?

It may be air-con tensioner bearings or others, but there should be no noises.

[crofte]

Its probably a gates belt! ask them what kind they used. gates belts are crap! stick to genuine. That is if all your other cam gear is stock. who did it?

[gts4diehard]

Theres not a lot to chose from for bearing noise, cambelt tensioners or alternator/powersteering pump/air con. You can rule out the latter by removing the appropriate belts and seeing if the noise is still there or by listening for bearing noise on each unit.

Chances are it is the cambelt tensioners if the cars done reasonable kms.

Before you got the belt replaced it would have been stretched making the load that is on the cambelt tensioners less and hiding any wear.

Now that you have a tight new belt and tensioners reset there will be more force on the bearings which will show up as a rattling noise if the bearings are on their way out.

And just to add, never had any probs with GATES belts, they make pretty good belts, Nissan don't make their own anyway.

[Duncan]

Just Replaced Timing Belt, now theres a whining rattle kinda noise

You might have a baby caught in the belt, check under the timing cover for small fingers or toes.

[eMsta]

Hey! I saw your car at RE the other night when I went to pick up my car! Rays a good guy, he will fix up the problem.

[RANDY]

Timing belt? Mine whined a little bit after replacing the idler, tensioner, and belt. (all stock replacements).

It might have been tight, but in the first month i'd imagine that the belt would slacken off a bit, and you'd have to retension it. Mine has smoothed out and is fine now (4 months since change).

Only other thing that comes to mind is if they didn't do the tensioner up properly... the belt will slap against the cover, and whine as it slips past the bearing.

Remove the top-half inspection plate, and check that the belts seem really tight.. maybe even shine a torch down there to check it.

[eMsta]

is it like a high pitched noise? (like its there when u start it, and when u press a bit of gas or if ur stationery) if it is, then maybe the belts are a bit tight - I had the problem when mine was changed - its a quick fix 15 minute job

[NiSmO`ChiCk]

Take it back.

Did you get tensioner and idler changed when the timing belt was done?

It may be air-con tensioner bearings or others, but there should be no noises.

hmmm, well i bought the parts and only got a new belt, so id have to check that out..

Its probably a gates belt! ask them what kind they used. gates belts are crap! stick to genuine. That is if all your other cam gear is stock. who did it?

yeah all stock and mmm yes it is a gates racing belt, the blue one...

Theres not a lot to chose from for bearing noise, cambelt tensioners or alternator/powersteering pump/air con. You can rule out the latter by removing the appropriate belts and seeing if the noise is still there or by listening for bearing noise on each unit.

Chances are it is the cambelt tensioners if the cars done reasonable kms.

Before you got the belt replaced it would have been stretched making the load that is on the cambelt tensioners less and hiding any wear.

Now that you have a tight new belt and tensioners reset there will be more force on the bearings which will show up as a rattling noise if the bearings are on their way out.

And just to add, never had any probs with GATES belts, they make pretty good belts, Nissan don't make their own anyway.

thanks for that, well its done 113000, so yeah will suss it out

You might have a baby caught in the belt, check under the timing cover for small fingers or toes.

LOL...quite the comedian

Hey! I saw your car at RE the other night when I went to pick up my car! Rays a good guy, he will fix up the problem.

hey, yeah he is, i actually asked about it after i started it up while i was still there and heard the noise, he said it should be fine and could last till next service, but yeah i just dont want my car sounding like that for the next 5000kms so id rather have it fixed, watever it is and yeah dunno wat to do yet

[eMsta]

Sounds like the belt might just be a bit tight - its often the case with the new belts (im assuming here its the same problem that I had). It would die out in a couple of months - but it is quite embaressing driving a hot car when it makes a noise like that.

Edited August 24, 2006 by emsta2003

[NiSmO`ChiCk]

yep it is kinda high pitched (and very annoying) and its worse on idle/stationery and yeah my initial thought was its too tight...mite be easy but i cant fix it myself though cos i have no idea wat im doing lol

i had a look and the belts are like super tight, i cant twist them at all

[T04GTR]

the timing belt is to tight

[T04GTR]

if its to tight (very common mistake) it makes a wir wir wir wir noise

if its to loose it makes a flap flap flap noise.

the belt tension adjustment needs to be as follows.

with the belt on and the tensioner not done up...wind the motor over to take up the slack in the belt. then simply lock off the tensioner. (thats what the spring is for lol )

hope that helps

[T04GTR]

full stop

[eMsta]

yep it is kinda high pitched (and very annoying) and its worse on idle/stationery and yeah my initial thought was its too tight...mite be easy but i cant fix it myself though cos i have no idea wat im doing lol

i had a look and the belts are like super tight, i cant twist them at all

Sounds like what I had after my timing belt was changed - its a 10-15 min job. Main thing is its nothing serious

[T04GTR]

you do have to remove all the front covers unfortonatly. that includes the front crank pully. sorry the only solution it to pretty much do the belt again,without taking the belt off

[eMsta]

if its just loosening the belt a bit, it can be done without having to remove the whole front. There is a cover underneath the car which has to be removed (can be done while the car is on the hoist), then its just a matter of using a spanner or socket spanner to adjust the belt.

Well, thats what happened to mine anyway...and there hasnt been any troubles so far...

[r33_racer]

I think your confusing the aircon belt with the timing belt, or at least one of the other two that run off the harmonic damper. The timing belt is located behind the timing covers which do need to be removed inorder to adjust the one tensioner which is also behind the covers.

The only idler that can whine/wir/squeel is the aircon idler which is obviously outside of the covers and sits below the aircon compressor.

and whoever said gates belts are shit is a moron

Edited August 24, 2006 by r33_racer

[eMsta]

The only idler that can whine/wir/squeel is the aircon idler which is obviously outside of the covers and sits below the aircon compressor.

Ah - that might be it - yeah they didnt remove anything when they readjusted the tension..

[FALLIN]

k gates racing timing belt does make noise but when mine got done it was found that 2 days later somewhere i have a dry bearing when it starts up it make a really scary grinding noise then goes no probs after 2 secs but as it off the road no big worries atm being fixed soon and yeah they "rigoli" over tension the belt