Andi Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Hey all, I've taken out my rear previous suspension to fit some stock suspension in. Now taking out the coilovers was a breeze but getting the stockies in is proving HORRENDOUS! I just wanted to know if you're suppose to be pushing the hub down to allign the fork? When I say push I mean using ALOT of force/weight to get it down. At the moment with the top of the strut in place with the two bolts on top slight done, the bottom of the strut (fork) is sitting way below the eye on the hub. To get them to 'line up' I had to pretty much stand on the hub to push it down and had to get someone to push the strut in place - does this sound abit extreme? The force of the hub trying to spring back up is so hard that I can't properly allign the fork and eye at all now, so I can't get the bolt through completely. Does something sound wrong here guys? Cheers, Andy P.S This is on an R34 GTT. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/131541-fitting-stock-suspension-why-the-hell-am-i-have-such-a-hard-time/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydneykid Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Have you disconnected the front stabiliser bar? If not, then disconnect one link, doesn’t matter which one. If it still won’t fit (not unusual) I use a long lever (1-2 metres) between the radius rod and the subframe. I push down on the lever with one foot and slip the shock eye over the bolt with my two hands. I have been known to sit on the lever rather than use a foot. A pinch bar works well as a lever, or a large piece of steel rod/bar. Don’t use a broom stick, they break and the wife gets upset. cheers Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/131541-fitting-stock-suspension-why-the-hell-am-i-have-such-a-hard-time/#findComment-2434874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eug Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 like SK said. i have also found that its much easier to jack the entire front or entire rear of the car up when dealing with suspension. rather than just 1 corner or the entire car on axle stands if possible... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/131541-fitting-stock-suspension-why-the-hell-am-i-have-such-a-hard-time/#findComment-2434981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andi Posted August 24, 2006 Author Share Posted August 24, 2006 Cheers guys! Now this may be a stupid question, but from where do I jack the front end up? And where would I stick the jackstands? Do I have to do it one side at a time? i.e. jack left side up, stick in jack stand then do the right side? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/131541-fitting-stock-suspension-why-the-hell-am-i-have-such-a-hard-time/#findComment-2435320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Easiest spot to jeck the car is udner the tow hook at the front. Front engine subframe is also OK but can be hard to get at with some jacks. Stands should go under the engine subframe (not the chassis rails they can crush, and never the sump). If you get it high enough you can put a stand under both sides at once....all depends how big your jack is Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/131541-fitting-stock-suspension-why-the-hell-am-i-have-such-a-hard-time/#findComment-2435384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bliksem Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 (edited) I wouldnt be using the front tow hook I always try to use the engine subframe, if you cant get under it with a jack just drive the car up on some planks of wood Edited August 25, 2006 by MintR33 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/131541-fitting-stock-suspension-why-the-hell-am-i-have-such-a-hard-time/#findComment-2439883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ISC-Performance Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 its always going to be a strugle installing stock sus after having low coilovers in your car....same as installing coilovers after having stock sus. When i change my coilovers in the r32 i get a mate to stand on the hub and i slip the bolt in...very common practise Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/131541-fitting-stock-suspension-why-the-hell-am-i-have-such-a-hard-time/#findComment-2440357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANWHORE Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 I wouldn't bother with undoing the stabliser bar if it's a stock one? I've done it so many times on my car it's just not funny. I'm never happy with the suspensions. First time, it was a bitch. I needed a friend. Now, I can do it myself. moving the hub is easy. If you need it moved up, just use the jack and push it slightly. I find I dont' even need the jack. I just use my arm and push/pull it. It's dififcult, but i'm not that weak. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/131541-fitting-stock-suspension-why-the-hell-am-i-have-such-a-hard-time/#findComment-2440411 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerlinTheHapyPig Posted August 26, 2006 Share Posted August 26, 2006 i usually use a long bar and find a point to lever it. I don't bother unbolting the stabiliser bar. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/131541-fitting-stock-suspension-why-the-hell-am-i-have-such-a-hard-time/#findComment-2440835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32gts-t Posted August 28, 2006 Share Posted August 28, 2006 I wouldnt be using the front tow hook I always try to use the engine subframe, if you cant get under it with a jack just drive the car up on some planks of wood (serious question) Why wouldn't you use the tow hook? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/131541-fitting-stock-suspension-why-the-hell-am-i-have-such-a-hard-time/#findComment-2444524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busky2k Posted August 28, 2006 Share Posted August 28, 2006 I've used the tow hooks. However I put the 2 car jacks under them, with the hydraulic jack also providing some help underneath the motor crosmember. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/131541-fitting-stock-suspension-why-the-hell-am-i-have-such-a-hard-time/#findComment-2444673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gts4diehard Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 Hi, if you are putting in the rear suspension then you may need to undo the bolts that hold the rear arms into the subframe &/or hubs. These bolts are supposed to be tightened with the weight of the car on them, and now that you are changing the ride height they should ideally be retightened whilst the car is sitting at the new ride height. The bushes in the arms torque when the suspension arms go up and down and changing the ride height will change the range of movement that arms go thru and will wear the bushes out quicker than necessary. If you are planning on keeping the car for a while then its best to do it properly, bushes in hubs and subframes are Not cheap to replace. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/131541-fitting-stock-suspension-why-the-hell-am-i-have-such-a-hard-time/#findComment-2450174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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