Camber Adjustment

[Cro_boy_Mario]

hey

i got a question

i dropped my skyline 3inches

and my back wheels r cambered crazy.........17 inch wheels

my front are only slight cambered

my question is...........what do i need to get them to 0 camber as much as possible....????

thanks for any help

[blind_elk]

Leave the fronts alone; bit of -ve camber is good.

The rears have some camber adjustment available, but you probably need a camber kit (available from Whiteline).

And 3" drop is probably too much in the first place.

[Sydneykid]

hey

i got a question

i dropped my skyline 3inches

and my back wheels r cambered crazy.........17 inch wheels

my front are only slight cambered

my question is...........what do i need to get them to 0 camber as much as possible....????

thanks for any help

First job is to measure the height, centre of wheel to guard is the suspension industry standard;

This is what is usually needed for each height increment, note that all measurements are centre of wheel to guard;

Standard (new) height is 380 mm front and 370 mm rear

360/350 mm needs only the standard rear camber adjusters

350/340 mm needs 1 front camber kit and 1 rear camber kit

340/330 mm needs I front camber kit and 2 rear camber kits

Refer to the Group Buy thread for prioces and other details

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...showtopic=85467

cheers

Edited August 25, 2006 by Sydneykid

[Guest 40th-edition]

i agree with sydneykid.

camber is damn important if u want your tyres to last

[Cro_boy_Mario]

First job is to measure the height, centre of wheel to guard is the suspension industry standard;

This is what is usually needed for each height increment, note that all measurements are centre of wheel to guard;

Standard (new) height is 380 mm front and 370 mm rear

360/350 mm needs only the standard rear camber adjusters

350/340 mm needs 1 front camber kit and 1 rear camber kit

340/330 mm needs I front camber kit and 2 rear camber kits

Refer to the Group Buy thread for prioces and other details

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...showtopic=85467

cheers

how much Degrees adjustment is available from these bushes?

[Sydneykid]

how much Degrees adjustment is available from these bushes?

Bit hard to say exactly, because the standard, old, soft, rubber bushes get distorted when the car is excessively lowered. So just removing the distortion reduces the negative camber. In addition the excessive lowering causes toe changes, which need to be corrected as well. Plus every car is different, of course.

Usually 1 rear kit does a minimum of 0.75 degrees, but I have seen over 1 degree due to the above factors. The 2 rear kits are good for 1.5 degrees to a bit over 2 degrees for the same reasons.

The front is similar with a minimum of 0.75 degrees, but I have seen over 1.2 degrees on ridiculously lowered cars.

As far as bushes compared to adjustable arms, all of the brands of upper control arms that I have measured (Noltec, Nismo, Ikeya, Cusco, Nismo etc) all stop at the same lengths. So choosing one brand over another to get more or less negative camber is pretty much a waste of time. The geometry of the suspension ultimately determines how much adjustment can be made.

cheers

[nsanity]

i agree with sydneykid.

camber is damn important if u want your tyres to last

Actually, Camber is somewhat bad for your tyres and will cause severe uneven wear if applied too liberally.

Negative Camber (which is what you're chasing) will make your tyres wear on the inside more than normal, at a benefit of giving you greater tyre contact patch whilst cornering.

Off the top of my head, i used to run 3 1/4 degree neg camber on the front, and well the rear wasn't adjustable on my GTR XU1 Torana, absolutely perfect for twisty mountain runs and Mount Panorama, wear was reasonable as well.

Dropping one's car 3 inches is almost stupid imho, you throw out all the suspension geometry, ride on bumpstops, and in general the car will handle much worse. For best results, sit down with an Suspension engineer, work out the angles of your geometry, then setup your car up from there.

But of course, thats some $$$ involved AND wont make your car look phat at the macca's drivethru whilst you scrape your body kit over the marginally illegal speed humps.

Alternatively, buy one of SydneyKids pre-configured setups for probably the cheapest better-than-stock setups you're likely to get.