Hollow/punched Out Cat

[walkoau]

can you get her to find this out, or see if they have a website with it listed.

i will get her to get me some info tomorrow, on how many ppl have been fined(if possible) and the average amount.

[Kaido_RR]

buy an highflow cat...

Top Serect R34 GTR, only made +7hp without a cat compare to running an apexi highflow cat

[Duncan]

people saying "Just chang it if you have to go to the pits" must have your head up your arses.

In NSW, the RTA and EPA regularly set up mobile defect stations with the full on test equipment for their defect blitzes.

If a $20k fine doesn't worry you. what would?

Worst of all we are talking about 1.25kw....someone in this thread go and do a dyno run, take a broom handle to it, then do another run back to back.

[Cubes]

2 of my previous cars when purchased had gutted cats.

Only reason I found out was dropped aftermarket exhausts on them. Makes me wonder if they break up and blow out them selves or these dodgy car yard pricks smash the guts out of a rattling cat.

How would I prove such a thing..... I couldn't.

[MANWHORE]

the penalty unit is 110$.

It's not difficult to find, except i can't remember myself where it's found.

Is it in the Acts interpretation act?

I don't ahve my laptop/files with me atm.

[Robo's]

people saying "Just chang it if you have to go to the pits" must have your head up your arses.

In NSW, the RTA and EPA regularly set up mobile defect stations with the full on test equipment for their defect blitzes.

If a $20k fine doesn't worry you. what would?

Worst of all we are talking about 1.25kw....someone in this thread go and do a dyno run, take a broom handle to it, then do another run back to back.

Lucky we don't live in NSW. I lived near the EPA for 5 years in my younger days and hot days the cops would pull over cars and send them to the EPA. You could go home fix your car and then wonder over there.

[sav man]

2 of my previous cars when purchased had gutted cats.

Only reason I found out was dropped aftermarket exhausts on them. Makes me wonder if they break up and blow out them selves or these dodgy car yard pricks smash the guts out of a rattling cat.

How would I prove such a thing..... I couldn't.

On a BMI I watched, Nismo said that one of the biggest problems with the z-tune was that it cept blowing out the cat. I think it's quite easly done on factory cats.

[Cool Hand Luke]

Now that i think of it. I was pulled over in my 180 which had an RB20. At the time it still had the stock ecu, but a turbo back exhaust with a gutted cat and a single muffler, and was tested and cleared.

[No Crust Racing]

How did he test and how could you possibly pass with a gutted cat...

[Cool Hand Luke]

They just asked to pick the revs of the car up to 2000ish, and put a meter near the end of the exhaust. Showed me it was fine, and told me to go. Needless to say i shat myself before when i first saw them

[No Crust Racing]

So the cops had a pollution meter of sorts ON them and tested you on the spot! Geez that makes me think twice about doing this...

[Cool Hand Luke]

In the end, i was just going to say that i wasnt aware. They cant really prove it, because it could have fallen to bits and blown out.

In the end if you drive a car without a cat, and get busted, you cant be pissed off. Everyone knows its illegal. Just like speading, burnouts, or any other mod that isnt legal. If your that worried about it, spend $400 or so and get a metal cat. If you cant afford it, knock yours out, save for one, and replace it as soon as you can.

[Adriano]

I would guess that the cops were checking noise pollution

[mattymagoo22]

yeah the test with the meter at the exhaust was a decibel check.

the fines you talk of $22 000 and so on are true, but your everyday joe blow in his/her skyline with no matrix left in converter would receive only a small fine, if tested and caught, and by the way this is for any emission reducing device eg cat converter, carbon canister, pcv etc etc....

These fines are mainly for mechanics and their company's who knowingly carry out such mods, can and have been fined $60 000 and $10 000 per day until problem was rectified, but again this was big business court etc etc.

If you're unlucky/stupid enough that you attract attention and are escorted to an EPA check station your car will get the works (usually) noise test, height, and all the rest of it, and as for your 'I did not know/it was like that when I bought it' ignorance is no excuse when it comes to the law (except if you got$$$$) but on the other hand an engine in bad tune can destroy the converter ( but it usually leaves traces/clumps of it in your rear muffler).

Just some food for thought, if any of you are keen on motorcycles you will see that of late a lot of manufacturers are starting to incorporate cats into bike systems due to stringent euro emissions laws, my tafe teacher who has many friends in the trade knows motorcycle mechanics who seem to have a higher instance of lung cancer among them due to their breathing in of the NOx gases produced by the bikes due to them not having a cat. Don't know about you guys but I breath in exhaust all day everyday in my workshop and that scares me.

[walkoau]

can you get her to find this out, or see if they have a website with it listed.

hi guys

as i mentioned in this thread before, my mrs works for the EPA (DEC). i asked her to ask one of the guys that works in the automotive section about cats. he says "on the spot fine is $3,000. You then have to go to court, and its up to the judge to decide what happens next (you can be fine more). the record amount for an individual fine is $22,000."

when asked how many ppl have been fined on the spot he says "too many to count."

have to ask your self is having a guttered cat really worth a fine of a minimum $3,000? i really dont think its worth the couple extra kws, if that!

thanks

Justin.