Wolf 3D......anybody got one?

[Ender]

HI,

I am looking at engine management systems for rb20det. I was talking to a guy today and he said that the latest Wolf 3D V4 fits rb20det and is actually quite good value for money, $1350 or so plus fitting obviously, when compared with autronic etc $2500 +.

Has anyone had any experience with Wolf 3D in their skylines? I am interested as to the issues you may have had...do they use standard AFM or does it need a Z32 AFM? etc etc...

Any help or comments appreciated.

Thanks,

Russ

[GTS-t VSPEC]

Russ,

I have a plug'n'play on my R33 GTS-t, it's excellent. You can run the Wolf with it's own MAP sensor, getting rid of the AFM altogether:D

It has heaps of features and better map resolution then PowerFC and Autronic.

See'ya:burnout:

[Al]

I have a Wolf installed in my R33, and it make a great improvement on drivability.

Even though i didn't make a big figure on Dr_Drifts Dyno day, i am still very pleased with the unit. I am trying to arrange with Sam, a date to retune the unit, as i am not satisfied with the previous tune. This has nothing to do with the ecu, more a case of the tunners ability and knowledge of the unit's features and the car's limitations.

Who are you talking to, in regards to the purchase, installation and tunning of the Wolf?

I live in melbourne too, so if you want to see how the unit runs give me a call on 0427076490 (Alan).

If you are interested on Tuesday, 8/4/03, i am taking the car to my mechanic to throw it on a new Dyno Dynamics dyno, that he might be purchasing. On this day i will do a run with the wolf and a run with the factory ecu. Just to make sure that the tunner (not EAS) has at least done something. Don't get me wrong the car feels a hell of alot stronger in the low-mid ranges. But a visual comparison is always satisfying.

Enough babble, call me if you are interested.

Here is a fact sheet from Steve, at AEM.

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[Al]

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[Ender]

Gtst vspec...I had a look back after I posted....I thought you might reply..thanks....

Al..I called in today and spoke to the guys at EAS as you reccomended, quite helpful. He reccomended the wolf might be a value for money option. Especially given that I am not chasing 1000's of Kw...not at this stage anyway. I would like 200 rwkw

I would love to have a look at your car and talk to you about the computer, I'll give you a call...have to see if I have that day off or not.

Thanks for the info....

Russ

[whistla]

We'vd PM'ed each other on this matter so u know my praises on the Wolf3Dv4

with the new updated version (4.5x i belive, if u guys havent updated, go do it guys!), it has a great feature of "Airtemp Ignition Compensation" which i belive the PowerFC doesnt have

(among alot of other things)

so if your tuning on a nice cool day, up the timing but come a 40degree and youll be pinging off your tits.

The compensation will allow for this and retard/advance needed

personally im more than happy with the unit

i had mine installed and tuned by Rank Rotory

[GTS-t VSPEC]

I run the air temp compensation, and rotational idle. Just waiting to use anti-lag when I get the turbo on:D

Great features in the Wolf, much better than the previous models.

See'ya:burnout:

[APA]

paul how much was it for the wolf 3d plus installation and tuning?

where did u get it from? does it matter if you have a automatic?

adrian

[G0DF4Th3R]

i think Paul got it done at SST in Welshpool for around the 2300 mark..

[whistla]

got mine installed (including air temp sensor install), tuned and handcontroller for $1600

[GTS-t VSPEC]

Bambam,

No it wasn't that much. I got mine cheap:D Yes SST did do mine, give Steve a call and ask him what he does them for installed and tuned.

See'ya:burnout:

[JimX]

How does the Wolf go for economy? I know that the Microtech is a good unit but fuel economy is really bad because it doesn't have a closed loop mode.

[Al]

GTS-t VSPEC

What is rotational idle?

Can you please list all other specs/options not listed in my original post

Thanks

Alan

[Kichigai]

I got it running in mine too and I also have rotational idle. For the price, it is great. I got it done at SST.

The Wolf v4 is fully upgradable so new features can be installed as they are released.

Rotational idle basically shuts one cylinder down (no fuel, no ignition) per revolution while the car is idling. Therefore, one cylinder has cool air running through it which helps cool the engine.

[MetBlue_GTST]

One of the beautiful features of the Autronic is the Autotune... Setup the ignition maps then hook an analyser and run through the different rpm vs load sites and it will determine exactly how much fuel is required.... Takes out a lot of the guess work and speeds up the tuning process...

Also if you go for the Autronic SM2 (like me) then you can also have traction control... Good for when it starts raining... and Launch Control for drags... as well as adaptive Closed Loop for long distance driving... I should be taking a trip down to Pemberton soon, so it will be interesting to see how it goes...

[PSIKO]

someone told me the wolf has traction control too, or launch control (whether they're the same thing or not..?)

but I could be wrong

[meggala]

russ why do you need a wolf dr drift does ecu's he has one r32 making 191 rwkw up to and over 200 is possible and he can do bigger ijectors etc if necassary I run one of his ecu's and use an s-afc for fine tuning jsut a thought and he is local to you.

an r33 is a different kettle of fish as their ecu is not remappable

[Ender]

ok... I hadn't considered it as an option...who do I call...Would it make as much difference as a wolf or other fully programmable computer at 190kw or so...what I mean is would I only get more benefit from a computer than drift ecu after 190kw or so.

Russ

[Ender]

All right now...have made a brief enquiry about the DR-Drft ecu...I just have a couple further questions...If the r32 ecu is fully programmable, why would you ever put in a $3000 computer, unless you want traction control or a few of the other obscure goodies some of them offer like rotational idle etc. Why is it not a commonly known fact, or is it and I have been in the freakin dark for ages....So the r32 the only one, I was sure I had investigated...maybe I assumed they were all the same and they aren't.....

Anyway I figure a replacement ecu is by far the most cost effective way of getting to 200rwkw or so.....

Wont have to save up for it either.....maybe I really should get that new clutch first though...doh.

Meggala, thankyou for showing me the light man.

Russ

[GTS-t VSPEC]

The Wolf has launch control, plus it runs closed loop. It has a boost controller and can hold two maps simlutaneously so you can switch between and economy map and a full racing map from the flick of a switch.

If your after big power then there is no going past full management, but for 200rwkw then a remapped chip is fine.

See'ya:burnout: