Should I Consult The Police

[Taso84]

We have had no specific instructions on where/when to use the new laws. I don't know if was an oversight not specifying where offences take place such as Highway or that it has been made that way on purpose. IMO the new laws are more of a scare tactic that won't be used all that often but gained lots of media attention and discussions on forums like ours. It's good for repeat offenders drivers driving whilst diqualified for example. Also if your stupid enough to get caught 45km/h over the limit you deserve to lose your car for some period of time. It's not deigned to seize cars off people taking off at lights quickly to speed limit or people that accidently lose traction on wet roads. As long as it stops/deterrs even a small percentage of people "hooning" on our roads then the laws are a sucess if you ask me.

This guy knows what he is talking about. You a 100% right. I couldn't have said it better

However, as the russian guy said, in most cases 0 tolerence laws/rules are usually very unsuccessfull by statistical fact. I don't really get wat all the fuss is about neway. Our society has such larger problems to deal with - drug abuse, corruption, fraud, sexual/physical abuse, pollution, inequality, war/terroism/security (altho I don't really agree that the last one is a "real" issue). Hoonish behaviour just seems so irrelevent when u look at the big picture

Edited September 15, 2006 by Taso84

[dangerous_daveo]

But didnt you all know, hoons eat babies!!!

Anyway, GTRgeoff if your serious about the qld politics thing let me know hey. Id help out with the driver education thing for sure.

Im actually a defencive driving instructor trainee (say that 10times quickly) as I couldnt see any other way I could do something to help. I gotta say tho, we get some people that the court system has sent to us. I REALLY think it needs a pass/fail system for at least those people, as some just dont learn.

Add to that training does help. Look at Roma in QLD for an example.

[R32 GT-R]

I think the same goes with liscences these days. You guys down south are no longer able to drive turbo and v8 cars on your p's? Along with a heap of other rules when ur on ur p's. The way I see it, if they want to avoid crashes e.c.t make it compulsary to complete and pass a defesive driving course to get ur liscence. I drive a truck around town all day every day for a living and the number of times I've seen a car that has locked up the front wheels on a roundabout in the rain and thus just understeered off the road or jump on the brakes when the car accidently goes sideways and ends up in a ditch. If these people knew how to handle there cars in a situation where they lost control they would be able to 9 times out of 10 avoid an accident. Instead they force people to never explore the limits of there vehicle due to fear of fines and liscence restrictions so when eventually these accidents happen people have no idea what to do to avoid hitting something.

[Gts-t]

i think its bullshit that i can be speeding in my corolla and its speeding but when im speeding in my skyline its hooning :S

i repeat bullshit!

[Basti]

speeding in ur corolla?? howd u manage dat?? i can barely make the speed limit before i have to stop again at the next lights.

[Gts-t]

Lol no i havent been done speeding in it, i was just saying if i did get busted speeding in it it would be just speeding but if i was in my skyrice then it would be hooning.

[Esc]

Lol no i havent been done speeding in it, i was just saying if i did get busted speeding in it it would be just speeding but if i was in my skyrice then it would be hooning.

i actually agree with that 100%

the same would apply if a young person was accidently doing 20k over the limit.

compared to an elderly person doing 20k over the limit.

the younger person would be labeled more of a hoon.

[KamikazeR33]

We have had no specific instructions on where/when to use the new laws. I don't know if was an oversight not specifying where offences take place such as Highway or that it has been made that way on purpose. IMO the new laws are more of a scare tactic that won't be used all that often but gained lots of media attention and discussions on forums like ours. It's good for repeat offenders drivers driving whilst diqualified for example. Also if your stupid enough to get caught 45km/h over the limit you deserve to lose your car for some period of time. It's not deigned to seize cars off people taking off at lights quickly to speed limit or people that accidently lose traction on wet roads. As long as it stops/deterrs even a small percentage of people "hooning" on our roads then the laws are a sucess if you ask me.

imho it will just create worse accidents and probably more police chases unfortunately if only the government would listen to the words of wisdom "prevention is the best cure" and put everyone through driving courses n alike when they get their licence.. they would think "hey, theres danger doing that.. i wont do it"

i dont know how many vic police know this fact but in the year since nsw has introduced the power limits to p plate drivers... the death count has risen considerably for p plate drivers. seems like its had the wrong effect. bandaid fix gone wrong. altho it is still in the right direction

back onto topic. jrocket where do u live? there are a number of tracks used in vic by sau-vic including the deca driving centre in shepparton which is a skidpan and short track