assyrian4evaa Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 so if you're on 10psi and have a nice front mount you should be ok? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/132314-what-fuel-do-skylines-love/page/3/#findComment-2457125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Italy! Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 ^ yeah it should be sweet. The stock ECU usually runs rich as so you'll be fine, as long as you always use PULP fuel. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/132314-what-fuel-do-skylines-love/page/3/#findComment-2457370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stasis Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 (edited) well guys i have a tock standard 260rs with a dtop in replacement K7N and a full 3" echaust fitted. i ran with a few 98 rons and founf mobil to be the most powerful , bp smoother and sheel the worse of the lot. ALthough i miced once optimax with extreme once and theres a lot of difference only 10 ltrs to the tank i added with the extreme. Since Sk said and proved that theres no problem running on extreme then how about running on United? Anubody test it long term @ 10 or 15% ethanol? Cos it sounds very cheap. Ectreme costs about 1.59+ i think. Im very tempted to try the United one. heres is the link to see where its available in whole Oz http://www.unitedpetroleum.com.au/distribu...8-locations.asp Edited September 2, 2006 by stasis Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/132314-what-fuel-do-skylines-love/page/3/#findComment-2457953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubes Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 I just had a fiddle with Uniteds Boost98 E10 pulp. Not all that happy with it to be honest. knock levels are down and it allows more timing to be dialed in but it just doesn't seem to have the same top end as the usual BP 98. Maybe its going a tad lean but if that were the case I would expect it to detonate which its not. hrmm Best not too fiddle as its strange, off for a power run it goes. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/132314-what-fuel-do-skylines-love/page/3/#findComment-2457962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stasis Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 thought you guys should read this http://www.webwombat.com.au/motoring/news_...rts/ethanol.htm Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/132314-what-fuel-do-skylines-love/page/3/#findComment-2458155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubes Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 thought you guys should read thishttp://www.webwombat.com.au/motoring/news_...rts/ethanol.htm Really doesn't bother me to be honest. I don't plan on running the united boost98. Optimax Extreme I believe will be fine. I have heard reported in the media issues with ethanol and engine corrosion and its effect on metal parts. What steps are you taking to protect my engine and its components?The issues you have heard about relate to a situation in 2003 when some retailers were selling fuel products with more than 20% ethanol blend without sufficient disclosure to customers. Shell was not involved in this practice and took active steps at the time to promote that our fuel did not contain ethanol. It has now been shown through extensive testing and research that a maximum 10% ethanol content is suitable for many cars which is why the Federal Government has set a maximum 10% ethanol content in Australian fuel. Shell has determined that a formulation of 5% ethanol optimises Shell Optimax Extreme (the same level that Governments in Europe are encouraging in their specification). All ethanol used in Shell fuel contains a suitable corrosion inhibitor. I will be ripping out the fuel pump (shows up there first) 3 months after I start using the fuel to ensure there is no corrosion. If not then another 3months and if not then another. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/132314-what-fuel-do-skylines-love/page/3/#findComment-2458167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
prelude_1976 Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 I tried United Boost 98, 3 days ago and although it drives smoother (ie when revving at 4k rpm it feels like 3k rpm), it massively loses power ( on a BNR32), I mean its noticeable!!. One thing i noticed beacause i overfilled with boost, that it left a yellowish oily trail, which went like glucose overnite, and couldnt be cleaned with water, but with soap. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/132314-what-fuel-do-skylines-love/page/3/#findComment-2458174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubes Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 I too noticed Boost98 was smoother and appeared to have more part throttle acceleration, however top end suffered. Do remember to make use of this fuel the car needs to be tuned to suit as it leans the car out. I richened up mine by 1 point which should have brought it back to 12:1 and dialed in more ign until I saw det but it still just didn't feel the same in the top end as the origional setup with BP 98. So for me.. Its bp98 until Optimax Extreme heads my way. I must also mention my external bosch fuel pump in hot weather usually develops a loud buzzing fuel sucking type noise. It can only be heard on the out side of the car. Well... Since I dropped this Boost98 stuff in even in cold weather it has constantly had this noise. I used the Boost98 up, dropped in BP 98 and instantly the Bosch pump was quiet and has stayed quiet all the way home. Interesting. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/132314-what-fuel-do-skylines-love/page/3/#findComment-2458182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stasis Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 I too noticed Boost98 was smoother and appeared to have more part throttle acceleration, however top end suffered. Do remember to make use of this fuel the car needs to be tuned to suit as it leans the car out.I richened up mine by 1 point which should have brought it back to 12:1 and dialed in more ign until I saw det but it still just didn't feel the same in the top end as the origional setup with BP 98. So for me.. Its bp98 until Optimax Extreme heads my way. I must also mention my external bosch fuel pump in hot weather usually develops a loud buzzing fuel sucking type noise. It can only be heard on the out side of the car. Well... Since I dropped this Boost98 stuff in even in cold weather it has constantly had this noise. I used the Boost98 up, dropped in BP 98 and instantly the Bosch pump was quiet and has stayed quiet all the way home. Interesting. I have use optimax extreme and its 10 cents more expensive than optimax itself. Long term in terms of affordability its very expensive. That why i was so interested in the United boost 98 get it tuned to match it and it will save long run. Thats just my theory anyway. But optimax xtreme is damn expensive. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/132314-what-fuel-do-skylines-love/page/3/#findComment-2458361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xr8eater Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 regular fuel with 150mls of methanol thats the best mix for my cars i dont recomend it but it works well ha ha yea. The methanol is $15 a litre Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/132314-what-fuel-do-skylines-love/page/3/#findComment-2458371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubes Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 I have use optimax extreme and its 10 cents more expensive than optimax itself. Long term in terms of affordability its very expensive.That why i was so interested in the United boost 98 get it tuned to match it and it will save long run. Thats just my theory anyway. But optimax xtreme is damn expensive. I'm just not sure I can put up with the fuel pump sound that the BOOST98 causes. I've now got BP98 in it and the fuel pump (external Bosch) has gone silent again. Its a strange finding but most likely due to myself not throwing the car on the dyno, richening up the afr and dialing more ign. in on the usual boost level saw no noticable improvement. However simply dialing up the boost did. There was no knock on Boost98 and the car felt strong. Drop BP98 back in to it and it began detonating. So Boost98 does appear to have an advantage over the BP98. It simply needs to be tuned to suit, there is no point even trying to fiddle myself on the street without a wideband. But yer.. Not sure I could put up with the fuel pump noise from Boost98. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/132314-what-fuel-do-skylines-love/page/3/#findComment-2458463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stasis Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 I'm just not sure I can put up with the fuel pump sound that the BOOST98 causes. I've now got BP98 in it and the fuel pump (external Bosch) has gone silent again. Its a strange finding but most likely due to myself not throwing the car on the dyno, richening up the afr and dialing more ign. in on the usual boost level saw no noticable improvement. However simply dialing up the boost did. There was no knock on Boost98 and the car felt strong. Drop BP98 back in to it and it began detonating. So Boost98 does appear to have an advantage over the BP98. It simply needs to be tuned to suit, there is no point even trying to fiddle myself on the street without a wideband. But yer.. Not sure I could put up with the fuel pump noise from Boost98. Other than your fuel pump noise no other problems? Does anybody used boost 98 before on a long term? Can we set 2 different settings with the power Fc using the hand controller than? Switching to different mao when using different fuels. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/132314-what-fuel-do-skylines-love/page/3/#findComment-2458621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubes Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 I only ran it for half a tank so I don't know if there would be any long term problems. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/132314-what-fuel-do-skylines-love/page/3/#findComment-2458637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosie_1008 Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 PULP ULP and diesel are all shared by the fuel companies but as far as 98 ron fuels go, they are kept separate Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/132314-what-fuel-do-skylines-love/page/3/#findComment-2458664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Italy! Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 PULP ULP and diesel are all shared by the fuel companies but as far as 98 ron fuels go, they are kept separate PULP is 98RON fuel..... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/132314-what-fuel-do-skylines-love/page/3/#findComment-2459236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
prelude_1976 Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 Not necessarily, BP has PULP as 95ron, and Ultimate as 98ron, as do some others... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/132314-what-fuel-do-skylines-love/page/3/#findComment-2459273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Italy! Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 ^ OK well if you're gonna be that specific about fuels, I'd call that semi-PULP fuel if i was being pedantic. But either way, the original statement made by Rosie_1008 is still wrong according to SydneyKid's knowledge - throughout the thread he has informed us of the different fuel companies who share their 98RON fuels, and which fuel comes from where and whos refinery. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/132314-what-fuel-do-skylines-love/page/3/#findComment-2459833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stasis Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 and i thought Vortex is a 95 octane? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/132314-what-fuel-do-skylines-love/page/3/#findComment-2459916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubes Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 stasis, depends on where you are, here in Adelaide Vortex is only 95Ron. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/132314-what-fuel-do-skylines-love/page/3/#findComment-2460033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R33_KRAZY Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 the only problem is that apparantly ethanol can bond to H20 - thats why there was a stink about it when it was first being used coz obviously water and pistons dont mix.however i think its unlikely to actually get enough water into your engine to do instant damage but i think the whole point is that it "can" do damage over time... who knows if it actually does... i mean most of us use high flow air filters that prolly let in just as much crap and water vapour anyway. dude why do people put water injection systems in there car to help with inlet temperetures.... an awfull lot of supercharged cars an now quite a few turbo'ed run a water injection system on the pressure side cant see its gonna hurt the pistons when you have a exploding fireball next to it... gonna dissapate preety quick Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/132314-what-fuel-do-skylines-love/page/3/#findComment-2462579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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