Atessa Trim Levels

[carl h]

ok toying around with the idea of converting a s chassis car to awd using a skyline as a parts car.

starting with the r32 to the r34, what trimlevels of atessa came in each chassis and how did each system work.

i know that in some cars they had active differentials and others mechanical...

a list or some kind enlightenment would be appreciated.

[Omurru]

From my understanding of it all:

The r32 had a slightly different system to the 33 and 34 which i think were the same???(not exactly sure about the), dunnno the exact differences but you can pull the fuse in the 32 and they will run in rwd you can't with the others. What do you mean by trim levels?

The 32 had hydraulicly operated hicas where as 33 and 34 had electrically operated, most people tend to lock this out anyway for a more predictable rear end on the track.

The vspec's had the active lsd, the normals had a loosley setup mechanical one. The vspec's atessa system is also slightly faster and more aggressive somewhere in the region of a reaction time of 1/1000th of a sec instead of the normal 1/100th on non vspec models.

[Gav]

ok toying around with the idea of converting a s chassis car to awd using a skyline as a parts car.

starting with the r32 to the r34, what trimlevels of atessa came in each chassis and how did each system work.

i know that in some cars they had active differentials and others mechanical...

a list or some kind enlightenment would be appreciated.

See the following for a brief but (I believe) accurate summary:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attesa

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATTESA_E-TS

[Beer Baron]

it wont matter so much. the only really viable one (cost wise) would be R32 non-vspec. plus it's nicer to be able to pop fuse and be in RWD. also for a conversion the simplest type the better as less things that can go wrong. A-LSD I would steer clear of for your case too. there is nothing wrong with a plain 2 way mech LSD (standard on 32 GTR).

the only way I would really consider this is buying a wrecked 32 GTR so you have access to ALL the bits.

[carl h]

thanks for the input, i thought the r32 gtr would be the best interms of attempting a conversion as it is the most basic of the 3 production chassis.

however i would be doing this conversion to my s14, so a r33 would be best suited as the r33 and s14 share MANY simmilariaties.

if i were to do this i would have one of my local importers cut a car in half and go from there, that way i have access to everything.

a waste of a gtr? perhaps but we arnt lucky enough to be able to import them and actualy own them here stateside.

[Omurru]

perhaps but we arnt lucky enough to be able to import them and actualy own them here stateside.

I've always heard that but never been able to find out why? I know there are some running around on your streets but they are few and far between. What is the actual reason you can't import them and how have those few got around that?

[carl h]

yes there are a few running round here but it basicaly comes down to improper dot approval.

motorex who was the only registered importer for skylines falsifided test data to get cars into the us, they only crash tested the r33 but not the 34 or 32...this eventualy placed the r32 and r34 on the 'never can be legalized' list and if a car comes in an is seized by customs, say bye bye.

there is alot more to it than just that but it is alengthy story, it honesly involves scandal, crooks and dishonest shops; iirc if you go onto skylinesdownunder in the us section there is a large thread about what happened and why it happened.

there are ways of sneaking a car into the us and getting it registerd but it is tough to do.

I've always heard that but never been able to find out why? I know there are some running around on your streets but they are few and far between. What is the actual reason you can't import them and how have those few got around that?

[Omurru]

hmmm sounds like it comes down to basically gay reasons. So a car has to undergo actual crash testing there before it can be able to be imported? How gay.... Can you import them for track use etc?

p.s. sorry to hijack your thread

[funkymonkey]

Move to canada EH? they have 15 year old rustbucket R32's running around cheap as chips. Not exactly V-Specs, but if you live in the US you can't be picky.

Are you on ZT forums? a bloke in the US recently posted some build pics of his S14 where they had just put the front driveshafts and linkages on an S14 off an R32 GTR.

If its not you, and you aren't on ZT, then I'll see if I can find the pics for you.

[carl h]

no im not on zt, what is it exactly?

as far as i know there hasnt been a complete conversion done in the english speaking world, im sure the japanese shops have done it but no one here stateside that i know of has a _working_ attesa car.

i have seen a s13 coupe converted to a locked awd using a gts-4 drivetrain, but it was constant 50/50...not ideal.

[funkymonkey]

THe guy who's doin the conversion I was talkin about is Geoff Raicer, he's from AZ or NJ. Works for Full Race Motorsports (www.full-race.com). They sucessfully fitted the full R32 GTR front subframe onto the S14 a couple of months ago.

Maybe contact them for more details? Geoff's email is geoff (AT) full-race.com

some build pics:

[funkymonkey]

[funkymonkey]

[funkymonkey]

[Duncan]

jesus

that looked like hard work

[funkymonkey]

yeah... we're sorta lucky we don't drive on the wrong side of the road like the americans and our local manufacturers don't have a vicegrip on the nuts of governmental policy. That's why I worry when we start making free trade agreements with Bush's regiment and they start introducing bullshit restrictions on us.

You can buy an R32 GTR and have it on the road for about USD 10k these days... and an R33 GTR for about USD 20k... instead of messing around with silvias. We got it good over here.