Roadworthy Questions In Nsw

[CeJay]

Hi All

Recently bought an r32 in nsw. I have a few questions about getting the roadworthy done in NSW. Due to a matter I am following from the dealer I bought the car from. The vehicle had to be registered at time of sale.

What kind of brake test is done during the NSW road worthy? Is there any physical inspection of the brakes that is supposed to be performed?

If the rotors are later identified as being undersize (ie a week later) is there any recourse you can follow through the dealer that sold the car?

thanks

chris

edit: i'm interstate atm.

Edited September 26, 2006 by CeJay

[Beer Baron]

they wont check thickness of the disks for roadworthy. they do a braking force test, using a little brake test machine. it need to pull a certain amount of g's under brakes for a pass.

[JAS-25T]

That test is quite easily bypassed - wont go into details

Problem is you can't find out if the test was legitimate or not.

Not that this is really relevant because it has no bearing on the disc size anyway

[CeJay]

thanks for the advice. I'll be following it up, just wanted to know what the inspection normally involves as I am in the ACT.

[Beer Baron]

i think you'll find rotor thickness will either fall to you (buyer beware) or to the workshop complying/selling the car, not on the roadworthy inspection workshop.

[CeJay]

i think you'll find rotor thickness will either fall to you (buyer beware) or to the workshop complying/selling the car, not on the roadworthy inspection workshop.

Yeah I've been now told by fair trading it's up to the dealer to sell a "roadworthy" vehicle, even if there is no warranty, it doesn't fall to the roadworthy shop.

[cowie165]

I was under the impression that NSW Motor Traders were required by law to provide buyers with a 90-day warranty on every vehicle purchased, as a safeguard against the ol' sawdust in the gearbox days. Guess I need to check on that again.

[lanky71]

Yeah thats correct, all NSW Dealers have to provide a staturtory warranty of 90 days.

But it only covers certain things as you would expect.

Drew.

[sewid]

Yeah thats correct, all NSW Dealers have to provide a staturtory warranty of 90 days.

But it only covers certain things as you would expect.

Drew.

If the car is 15 years or older no warranty is required. Statutory or otherwise.

[Beer Baron]

and even if there was one, wear items like brake discs etc would almost certainly not be covered.

[CeJay]

and even if there was one, wear items like brake discs etc would almost certainly not be covered.

Yes but the dealer has a duty of care to sell a roadworthy car at time of sale.

[Nathan]

Cejay

This is the ruling for brakes by the RTA.

Safety Check Standards

Brakes Rule 101

Light Vehicles Rules for Authorised Inspection Stations Nov 2005

101.01 Check the operation of the brake controls

Reasons for rejection

a) on rubber faced brake pedals, any metal is showing;

b) on metal brake pedals, there is no anti-slip surface;

c) missing or broken brake pedal or handle;

d) when the service brakes are firmly applied, less than 20% of the pedal travel remains;

e) when steady pressure is applied to the service brake pedal for 10 seconds, the pedal travels towards the floor;

f) where ADR 31 or 35 applies, the brake failure warning light does not operate when the ignition is turned on, and the engine is either not running or the starter motor is engaged;

g) the parking brake ratchet or locking device is not holding the parking brake lever in its applied position.

h) (if fitted with ABS), the ABS self test/failure warning lamp does not operate when the ignition is turned on, and the engine is either not running or the starter motor is engaged;

i) the ABS or brake fail warning lamp remains on when the engine is running or comes on when the brake is applied (with the engine running);

101.02 Inspect the condition of visible brake components.

NOTE: This includes the area underneath the vehicle.

Brakes Rule 101 Light Vehicles Rules for Authorised Inspection Stations Nov 2005

Reason for rejection

a) where visible, any brake component is leaking or is not securely mounted

b) any hydraulic brake hose where, if when the brake pedal is held depressed, the intermediate reinforcement fabric of the hose is exposed or the hose swells or bulges.

NOTE: Cracked or split outer casing on the hose is not reason for rejection.

101.03 Service brake test with a decelerometer

NOTE: i) Decelerometer standards should be read in conjunction with the equipment specifications in Appendix B1 and the equipment manufacturer's specification.

ii) On some vehicles with light axle loads, or when testing in wet weather, it might be difficult to obtain a brake test result because of wheel lockup. In these cases the pedal pressure should be reduced to a point where only the minimum specified deceleration rates are achieved.

Set up a suitable decelerometer in the vehicle cabin. With the vehicle unladen, drive it to at least 30 km/h. Put the transmission into neutral. With both hands on the steering wheel, bring the vehicle to a halt as rapidly as possible in a safe manner with one sustained and smooth braking action using the service brakes.

Reasons for rejection

a) the application of the brakes causes the vehicle to swerve from a straight line path;

b) the service braking system decelerates the vehicle at less than the performance requirement specified in Table 1 or 1a.

The RTA basically wants a brake test performed after a visual inspection. So if the rotors have gone undersize, 1/4 of the brake pads are left, no leaks and the car passes the brake test, its ok. Another point you may have to prove is was the vehicle not ok at the time of inspection.

Good luck

[CeJay]

Thanks for the info, makes it more interesting....