Fuel Saving devices

[PuppaDuck]

Has anyone looked into these before ?

I saw 2 mentioned on Today Tonight a little while ago...

www.fuelstar.com.au and www.fitchcatalyst.com.au

Both claim to treat petrol so that it burns cleaner and more consistent so you experience an increase in fuel economy, more power, and less emmissions (maybe its possible to toss the CAT out ?)

Two applications...an inline one that you hook up like a petrol filter by breaking the fuel line and clamping both sides to it...

the other is by dropping a few pieces of metal into your tank...

I'm not sure if these things are only talk, but they sound great...

I guess I'd be happier if NRMA, autospeed, etc reviewed them and tested them...

at the moment they only have international organisations reviews, etc...

I was thinking of buying one for the bike or a small hatchback to test it out on - before I killed my R33s engine with it...

I am also interested if anyone thinks they can help organise to get them to give us one for free to thoroughly test the product more than their 90 days return guarantee allows...

I am also a little pessimistic about the inline version as it looks like it'll restrict our fuel flow...else we'd have to buy their truck version which is close to a grand...

Anyway, has anyone tried these, read about these or know the science behind them ????

I would love to get one if it works - before my next tune...

[DennisRB30]

They are a crock. Put then in the same basket as Hiclone and the Turbo exhaust tip vortex generator. Do a google search. I saw a few tests done by independent researchers that concluded they done nothing to improve power octane or economy. Zoom eve tested on ages ago and came to the same conclusion.

[DennisRB30]

http://board.performanceforums.com/forums/...hlight=Fuelstar

[browny]

Funny this comes up - I actually got an email at work the other day from Fuelstar that listed the proper methods for testing the device. I reckon its basically impossible perform a test they wont dispute.

They also mention that

"7.Experience has shown that Fuelstar must be involved in the conduct of tests and be able to observe the trialling"

Our company actually did some independant testing, they never actually released the raw data to us pleb engineers but in their wisdom sent it to Fuelstar for interpretation. I tried to dig it up a while ago but all traces of the job seem to have disappeared...

[DennisRB30]

Hey browny could you please send me the testing method. PM or [email protected]

Do you think it's a crock?

[PuppaDuck]

I guess if someone tells you that driving without shoes will save you a dollar in fuel economy, you'll drive a certain way to make that statement true...

There probably is a working version out there but they probably got gunned down by the Petrol Guild or something...

[EnricoPalazzo]

I was told they are legit, but think about it. If they did work, every car manufacture in the world would be using them.

Simple enough.

[Ash]

someone buy me one and ill test it for u guys

[browny]

DennisRB30

Yes I think they are a crock. I am willing to keep an open mind however if they can be proven to work by someone reputable.

I have a real problem with the way the device is marketed. They rely very heavily on testimonials which I generally disregard as BS. Also they quote all these comprehensive studies that prove the product works. If you scratch the surface a bit you find a lot of these so called studies arnt very comprehensive at all.

Two examples. The report by Dr Jim Sprott the combustion expert and the testing by the CEE. The study by Jim Sprott is only a generalised desktop study that has been massaged to be relevant to Fuelstar. They claim that the CEE tests proved the product over "hundreds of hours". In reality it was something like five 20min tests.

I could go on for ages but I stop now.

[browny]

The other thing is that they are riduculously expensive for what they are.

The cannisters look like they are machined from stainless. My impression is that they are largely trying to justify the cost of the thing by the expensive 'packaging' that its is in.

[Doctor]

Most of the worlds great inventions such as fuel saving devices get shot down by the govt. or the large companies of the world as there is a potential for them losing money. Thats my little conspiracy theory.

If this really worked it would not be for sale to the public, me thinks. I have heard someone one these forums swear by using one of these though.

[DennisRB30]

Originally posted by Doctor

I have heard someone one these forums swear by using one of these though.

I pity his poor soul.

[Warpspeed]

If you fit a foxtail to your radio antenna, and a pair of fluffy dice to your rear view mirror, and fit the award winning Warpspeed Exhaust Tip, it will reduce fuel consumption by up to 23.67%.

This has been proven under strict laboratary conditions, carried out by the nunns at the sacred octane convent.

However, you never see these things around these days, because the CIA and the oil companies have a covert plot to eliminate all foxtails and fluffy dice.

There have been numerous attempts to kidnap Warpspeed to learn the scientific secrets of the exclusive and world renowned Warpspeed Exhaust Tip.

If you PM me, I can supply you with a genuine immitation plastic foxtail, fluffy dice, and included FREE the world acclaimed Warpspeed Exhaust Tip.

Just include your credit card number, and I can supply these for $899.00, but hurry stocks are fast running out.

[DennisRB30]

Great! I'll have 10.

[Warpspeed]

If you do that, there could be an up to 236.7% fuel saving.

Fuel will flow back from the engine and overflow the fuel tank. This could pose an extreme fire and explosion hazard.

Warpspeed takes no responsibility if you blow yourself up.

[DennisRB30]

Don't you know where fuel comes from? Oil refineries are a thing of the past. Instead of oil fields they have fields of V8’s running with all the possible advertised fuel saving devices. The fuel lines are connected to large storage tanks that fill up rapidly…

Seriously, if all of these dodgy devices really worked as the manufactures claimed, your fuel level would increase if you used them all at once. The problem with these fuel saving devices is you will need a larger tank to avoid it overflowing.