Shell V-power

[Kennedy]

Hey Guys,

Not sure if there is a thread already about this but it seems that Shell have changed their fuel structure.

Optimax is now "Shell V power"

Optimax Extreme has been superseeded by "V Power Racing"

Reading through the brochure and web site it seems that V power racing is an upgrade rather than a rebadging of extreme/ Claiming that V power has a minimum of 100 RON but avereages 101+. This is a claim that extreme never made so it interests me...

Upgrade from Shell Optimax Extreme to new Shell V-Power Racing

I filled up my first tank last night and will let you know how it go's. I oly have a stock ECU though without a knock reading so my feedback will only be impressions and stuff. I guess we can all wait and see if SK will take up the challenge and do his full test on it on our behalf What i do know is that Extreme is now gone or at least on its way out.

[--{TRYDIS}--]

v-power racing is recomended for car models 2004+ not meant for our cars well that wat the fcai website says.

[satanic]

I filled up with this stuff last weekend; the attendant was full explaining the changeover to me as I'd never heard of it before and thought it was some dodgy rip-off susbstitute

After one track day; pleased to say it goes good! but that could've been because of the AfterBurner product that I put in

[Beer Baron]

it's optimax extreme rebadged and with new marketing spiel to go with.

[JVP]

i put it in my car the other day and it ran like shit.

[Kennedy]

it's optimax extreme rebadged and with new marketing spiel to go with.

Hey BB,

If you dont mind can you be more specific or is this just your opinion?

[Abo Bob]

I love how they put in a low tax additive and charge us more for it.

Where did you get it Sam? I still haven't tried Extreme yet cos I haven't seen it at a servo I have been at.

Also, what a bunch of pansy arse, wanky featured, boyracer, bullshit names they have. It's enough to put you off buying it incase someone actually sees me filling up with it and starts laughing at me.

[satanic]

V-Power Extreme Racing Formula + NOS (99% Ethanol) is just around the corner boys

Adam; go to the Shell website for a list of servos that sell Extreme.

[AndrewD]

Hey Guys,

Not sure if there is a thread already about this but it seems that Shell have changed their fuel structure.

Optimax is now "Shell V power"

Optimax Extreme has been superseeded by "V Power Racing"

Reading through the brochure and web site it seems that V power racing is an upgrade rather than a rebadging of extreme/ Claiming that V power has a minimum of 100 RON but avereages 101+. This is a claim that extreme never made so it interests me...

Interesting, i read the brochure and their material safety data sheets and it seems to me as a rebadging.

Also optimax extreme claimed a minimum of 100 RON rating, including 5% ethanol.

Marketing hype. Thats all.

Same thing as unleaded 98 changed to optimax.

Edited October 11, 2006 by AndrewD

[Bliksem]

i put it in my car the other day and it ran like shit.

It was probably your ecu playing with timing etc to adjust to the higher octane fuel. As far as I know 100ron fuel is common place in Japan and was probably used in alot of our cars prior to comeing to Australia anyway.

[Kennedy]

How is new Shell V-Power Racing different to Shell Optimax Extreme?

New Shell V-Power Racing with FMT is an improved product compared with Shell Optimax Extreme. It contains Shell’s new Friction Modification Technology (FMT) and is designed to reduce friction in the engine, improve engine performance and responsiveness, and give improved acceleration right from the first tank

Above is the quote from Shell website.

Adam, The Shell on Wicks Road in Ryde sells it. Also the Shell on Epping Road (near Macquarie sells it). And if your ever in the city, the shell at Taylor Square/Oxford St sell it

I've been on extreme for nearly a year. Sometimes I change back to BP and can definitly feel the difference. Looking forward to what V power can do......

Here's a link to the FAQ's

[xRHETTx]

I dont sell why this fuel isnt cheaper than regular 98 octane????/

Its got 5% ethanol in it, which is a lot cheaper than petrol.. So really they are just ripping people off.

I have been using Boost98 from United petrol stations lately. Its 98 octane and it costs the same as regular 91 octance petrol, cause it had 10% ethanol. Thats the way it should be done, a good fuel for a cheaper price rather than a hyped-up fuel for a ridiculous price.

[Modena]

Might give it a go if its slightly cheaper than BP ultimate.

[Busky2k]

The Boost98 is cheaper because its a 96RON fuel + 10% ethanol to give you a RON of 98.

Also this friction modification technology sounds like a marketing gimmick.

[jazza08]

SK found along with a mag i read (hpi might of been..) that you really need a re-tune if you have a tuned ECU and are planning on changin to a fuel with etho in it, basically you can run more timing with the etho additive in it thus make more power across the rpm range however without the re-tune you'll make less power and the car will run more lean which is obviously horrible! lol

Anyone know if WA will ever get ANY 100 octane fuel..

Edited October 11, 2006 by jazza08

[r33_racer]

yup its good if you retune using that fuel....we use it in the race car and its better then any 98 octane fuel weve tried before it came out. Seriously who gives a shit about the name of the fuel...fuels fuel, they can call it whatever they want if its better then the low octane 'super lamo race fuel' ill use it regardless.

[QRI05E]

Hey Guys, I just filled a tank of Shell Optimax Extreme in my SII R33 and i only got a full exhaust... without even resetting the stock ECU i felt my car run 10 times better then BP ultimate and regular optimax.. not a single cough or stutter as others have stated... idle and acceleration feel much smoother...

Cheers,

Sarkis

[Sydneykid]

I guess we can all wait and see if SK will take up the challenge and do his full test on it on our behalf

Already on the case, started tuning for the new brew last week on the way to the airport to catch the plane to Bathurst.

On that same subject, I have been retuning the PFC in the R33GTST after we did SOME headwork on it (porting, larger exhaust valves and combustion chamber polish). I can’t believe how much ignition advance I can now add, in some places I have advanced it 15 to 18 degrees from the default settings. It is using load points now that it simply could reach before, particularly around 3,000 to 4,000 rpm.

As for fuel tuning, I am now starting to run out of injector duration and it is still a bit leaner than I would prefer. Maybe time to fit the Nismo adj fuel pressure regulator and the GTR fuel pump.

What I have noticed while tuning with Optimax Extreme is that it misfires when the ignition is too retarded. It misfires when the ignition is too advanced. It misfires when it is too lean. It misfires when it is too rich. When you get the tune close, the misfiring stops and it goes GOOD.

Keeping the above in mind, any retuning for V Power should be obvious.

cheers

[limpus]

Hey Guys, I just filled a tank of Shell Optimax Extreme in my SII R33 and i only got a full exhaust... without even resetting the stock ECU i felt my car run 10 times better then BP ultimate and regular optimax.. not a single cough or stutter as others have stated... idle and acceleration feel much smoother...

Cheers,

Sarkis

Thats probably because your car was running rich due to the standard tune and the ethanol fuel helped to lean it out abit...which would make a car run better if it was running too rich...

[QRI05E]

hmmm possibly, how ever im running 8psi only and full exhaust... even on the dyno my car didnt make one puff of black smoke so i dun think its running rich... AFR was 10:1 from memory...

But you guys are right... its quite expensive

Unleaded: $1.10 per L

Optimax: $1.21 per L

Extreme: $1.36 per L

Cheers