Decisions Decisions Decisions...

[GTR_STEALTH]

Roy,

Send me a PM with detailed proposal for consideration....

[djr81]

Sounds like you need to talk to Kim Ledger....

[Roy]

Roy,

Send me a PM with detailed proposal for consideration....

No need for PM

This is what you need, only with a turbocharged CA18DET or if budget permits an SR20/ZETEC 2L etc. A friend has a few race rally Escorts including a BDA Escort worth a small fortune. The one i drove changed my mind about whats fun. A well sorted Mk 1 with 200hp is quick and fun...imagine one with the torque of a CA18 with a 2530!

This would be cool. And i know where there is rolling shell in good nic with good paint that already has a full cage and ho,olgated suspension pick up points for racing. I so want to

[Rowdyr32]

GOOO The R32 GTST with a RB26 in it. It was the most indistructable car I've ever owned. It copped a couple years of torture before it spat its exhaust wheel for the second time and took out two cylinders. It used to love being launched in second gear with the 255's on the rear smoking. If you have ever driven one you will know how they are to drive. At no stage even through my drifto stage or at the track did the car had I ever feel out of control no matter what you did in it unless you pushed it knowingly past its limit. When it got my gtr I was really disapointed. The wank factor of owning a gtr is nice but the good old times of just messing around in the skyline stopped. A 32 gtst is like driving a go kart. Heaps of fun, light and really cheap. Just ask Troy and all the other 32gtst owners. They'll tell you! As I think Chris said to somebody "4wd makes up for bad driving"

Now for Bris I've been looking for a while now for a highly modded gtst or datsun with a sr or ca turbo in it for cheap. They weigh nothing, cheap for parts, and with track cars you need to look at power to weight. A little datsun/escort stripped 800kg with 150rwkw never breaking down beacuse it has a unstressed later model engine and you can throw the shell away if you stack it verse a gtr that chews out tyre, expensive to fix when it breaks something, chews fuel and brakes with 300rwkw and around 1500kg. The lighter car should corner faster. Just compare a v8 supercar to a formula ford. They do about the same lap times. Then look at there brakes engine etc. It make the supercar look like a brick.

Heres a proposal:

GTST 9k with wheels, exhaust, intercooler, suspension etc Sell motor 1k owes 8k

GTR motor with pfc, tune and N1's 7k or less = 300rwkw

Clutch $500

Shim diff $250

For around 16k you would have a reliable car which would smoke it through second and maybe in third and go all day every day. No lag and a rb26 designed to rev to 9000rpm. If you want it to be reliable only run 14psi. No 4wd components inc g/box to break and lighter than a gtr and nobody expects it until you pop the bonnet.

[R32gts-t]

last year I went to watch a couple of friends in the sunday events of the vic dutton rally 2005.

aside all of the eye candy this was probably in my top 5 cars for the day.

http://www.pbase.com/duttonrally/car--11

keep in mind, this was amongst gt2's and similar standard cars etc. may have had something to do with the bloke who was steering it, i think it's his personal car too. mmmm cosworth goodness...

[Roy]

Yeh, Steves Escort is worth some big coin using all the hot factory gear. He built it himslef with help of a few HRA guys i know, its a true credit it to him.

Forget about using the motor he is though, engine alone is worth around 20k, possibly more. An alloy SR with a baby turbo for about 200rwkws tuned well would make it a very quick car. Think about less then Elise weight with turbo torque.

And they are cool. I will own a Mk1, but not until i buy property.

But im with Riverdance (Rowdy) An R32 etc is good as you can gut it, throw in a std RB26 and have a very good driveability.

The Sydney trip should be interesting as the usual quick Vic GTRs will be there. But for the first time my car should be able to be driven hard as it wont have a free spinning diff, or weak std gearbox etc.

I dont expect to be as quick, but still running a std RB20 i hope to be close to the money with only 1-2 seconds in it.

I love whoring pics of my car

You could build a car a lot quicker then mine for less then 20k...and i would be surprised if over a single lap its not as quick or quicker then many of the Vic GTR guys (Some of the quickest GTRs in the country)

[phunky_monkey]

I want your logger Bris. The turbo wouldn't go astray either.

Can't wait to see it out at all the events next year mate, it's gonna be awesome!

[Roy]

Sandown next weekend if i get busy this weekend

[R32gts-t]

these threads are bad for greg's wallet.

[phunky_monkey]

This forum is bad for Dane's wallet...

[Roy]

You can buy this RS1600 Escort. A person i know built it with all the good gear...all yours for only $95,000

[Interloper]

i don't get it Roy, whats so good about a old escort? ok, its got mods but i don't understand what people see in old sh1tty ford escorts.

Better to start with a newer chasis like an s13 for example and building it up from there

++++++ escorts are butt ugly

[ctjet]

pumped out wheel arches do add some toughness to an otherwise ghey looking car

[R32gts-t]

ah, tisk tisk, you guys need to witness a cossy close to redlinein a car like that then you will understand why they have such a cult following, although i'd definately go german for close to 100k, you can get fully prepped 964's and have change left over to cover your expenses for a year of racing, or even cheaper some older style rs replicas are priced closer to the 70k mark, both which would be pretty well matched to the little ford.

[Roy]

i don't get it Roy, whats so good about a old escort? ok, its got mods but i don't understand what people see in old sh1tty ford escorts.

Better to start with a newer chasis like an s13 for example and building it up from there

++++++ escorts are butt ugly

Watch this

You dont have to spend a lot of money to make one damn quick, easy to get to tstop well, only need 15" semis etc etc.

The example above uses all factory rally components and the Lotus engine is worth more then most R33 GTRs so...is an extreme example of an Escort. If i was loaded i would buy it as i work with the navigator of the car and know how much attention has gone into the built...it is amazing the care he has goen to on what most would call a minor part.

And they look awesome...anyone that has seen a good example, someone mentioned Steve Richards own Escort, it sounds and looks great...and is quick

S13s still weigh over 1000kg, so the Escort will be 300kgs lighter, imagine the Escort with a pretty std CA18DET

[ferni]

If you want a cheap track only car then i'd be looking at a R32 gtst, RB26 or RB30 in it, and some serious suspension mods. Should only be a few seconds behind some of the quick GTR's then.

Since you already have 2 cars, VR and 33 i'd be tempted to keep the VR as a daily and get rid of the 33 which i assume is your weekend car and use this new track car as a weekend car as well.... otherwise you may as well import a race only car.

[GTR_STEALTH]

At this stage the game plan is this:

VR- For Sale

R33- For Sale

To be replaced with-

Nissn Pintara Wgn 5sp(Cheap daily runaround)

S13 Silvia (Cheap track car for fun ) Locally purchased

R32 GTR (May see a few laps on the track) Will not be imported. More than likely i'll get this from SEI as his prices is approx 24K compared to avg. 19K imported + on roads. The 3-5K saving to me is negligable.

Hopefully see you out there soon! :sorcerer:

[phunky_monkey]

I love the Esky's, very cool little cars! Nothing sounds quite like old school NA cars... but then again I've owned an RX3, and I'd like a datto 1600, so I like my older cars.

Thought about a 240/260Z?? http://my105.com/classified.asp?id=6018&feature=1

^^^^ YUMMO

But yeah, for 100k I'd take a prepped 964 or a 993 GT2 replica/RS replica. mmmmmmmmmmmm nice

[Roy]

If i had 100k to spend on a weekend club car, then money wouldnt really be an issue

And on a serious note. an R32 GTSt stops beign cheap when you start talkign RB26s or RB30s. Your better off starting with an R33 as they have the bigger motor and gearbox and brakes.

Are there any GTRs left in Vic that do track days and dont have over 300kws and run semis and suspension? No wonder they look at a 25k R32 GTSt as a cheap track car

[Rowdyr32]

Where do you go about finding the older hillclimb/race cars?

You got me searching youtube and I found this for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vma_y8dccr4