Aurion Has Arrived! - New Pics, Models, Prices.

[Nizmo]

I pose this question to you: If you had a heavy table you had to move - would you push it or pull it ..... would it make any difference? FWD is the pull. RWD is the Push.

[Big Rizza]

  MBS206 said:

Ahh, sorry about that then

So, with a jump in 40KW, on a 200KW engine, they must be running what 3PSI of boost? What did they bolt to it? The SC14 Supercharger?

As for "Tiptronic" how about we say "Slow reacting *manual* driven auto"?

Tiptronic = piece of pooh!

That's a bigger jump than Holden got when they supercharged the old Buick V6 . Having driven both a standard V6 and supercharged V6 commodore, I can honestly say the old superchaged commodores monstered the standard V6 in bottom end grunt. And I'd say that'd be the same story with the Toyota - the torque gains (and therefore average power gains) would be far greater than the 40kw peak power figure suggests.

Having said that, I still don't want one (any of them)

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I pose this question to you: If you had a heavy table you had to move - would you push it or pull it ..... would it make any difference? FWD is the pull. RWD is the Push.

A big table? I would pull it. Put the big table on wheels? I would push it. So I guess when it comes to cars, I'm a rear drive person, but a front drive person in all other respects of life. A cardigan wearing bogan or something....

[Cubes]

  Nizmo said:

I pose this question to you: If you had a heavy table you had to move - would you push it or pull it ..... would it make any difference? FWD is the pull. RWD is the Push.

Poor analogy however it can be applied to fwd or rwd on SAND.

The rear wheel drive on sand: sand pushes up against the front wheels making it harder for the rear wheels to push the car.

A fwd however doesn't have this issue as sand is unable to push up against the front wheels, it simply drives over it, sand hardly pushes up against the rear wheels as they are being dragged rather than pushed in to the sand, they also have less weight over them.

BUT who drives their beloved car on sand 99% of the time. I drive on the road were rwd is a much nicer drive. fwd you have to fight the steering too much not to mention should one hit a pot hole under acceleration.

[The Baron]

  Nizmo said:

As for towing - it has traction control and torque .... towing grandmas little caravan shouldnt be much of a problem - anything bigger then most people would go to hilux/prado anyway.

I saw some figures from a performance test towing a standard (1400kg-does that sound right ??) trailer and the Aurion beat the Falcon and Commodire in acceleration and braking - and yeah anything bigger should go on a Prado ;-)

BTW The missus has a towbar on her Corolla Sportivo and it does a 6 x 4 trailer just fine

BTW II - There is no way I'd choose an Aurion over an R-32 either - this is the Skylines forum after all ;-)

[MBS206]

  Nizmo said:

well took one of the first to arrive in our yard for a burn today ..... the ABS works very well as i found out from some A-hole that didnt look and just pulled out in front of me!

As for towing - it has traction control and torque .... towing grandmas little caravan shouldnt be much of a problem - anything bigger then most people would go to hilux/prado anyway.

Its a great car to drive for a family sedan has a decent whack of power the gearbox seems nice and smooth. The inside and outside i find a little yawn .... but im sure i'll sell plenty no doubt - already have people from other clubs that know what i do PM'ing me really interested in buying one.

Ever seen the remains of a FWD, towing a "small" caravan and having it hit with a slight cross wind. It ain't pretty. RWD is the better way to tow.

As to moving huge large "things" why wouldn't large tip trucks etc used in mines be FWD instead of RWD if it were better?

Jump on a hill (wet grass does it easier) and try to drag your large heavy bin up there, you'll slip so easily. Now try and push it up. Much easier.

[WazR32GTSt]

  Nizmo said:

I pose this question to you: If you had a heavy table you had to move - would you push it or pull it ..... would it make any difference? FWD is the pull. RWD is the Push.

bad analogy.. the human body is designed to pull more efficiently than to push...

but i agree with what you're getting at, and i have never, and will never own a FWD car

[Mulkers]

  Nizmo said:

its auto with TRC & VSC - no chirpies Doesnt even get sideways.

So it electronically removes the driving experience, and ejaculates boring bland uninspiring pain in to you.

Awesome. Good thing they are so safe though. A heavy, torquey, powerful FWd would look bad if its regular crashes were fatal.

The only reason i would buy a commodore or falcon (it's competitors) is for the engine lay out (north south), it's rwd, and to do cheap skids.

If i wanted something economical, cheap, reliable, luxurious, and a level of exclusivity, i''d keep my 10's of thousands of dollars of depreciation, and get; cresta, cressida, celsior, chaser, mark II, Tourer, Cima, Cefiro, Gloria, Leopard, Soarer, etc, which are still a solid 20 years ahead of there aussie counterparts, meaning a 10y.o. Cima is light years ahead of falcodoores.

Edited January 16, 2007 by Mulkers