My On-going Dispute With Recent Fines I Received

[Mr-Toy33]

As I recently been reamed myself by QLD's finest wanker cop (thats what I call him) - officer M. Little (first name Michael) for stupid reasons listed on the defect notice, i'm in the process of actually taking my 2x fines and defect notice through the courts.

As the story goes....

Was standing at BP fuel station filling up on Logan Road at Underwood area and I asked the cop as he was walkin back to his car after paying if he was a traffic cop. I then proceeded to ask about the new laws that they are bringing in, in regards to people under the age of 25 not being allowed to have a high powerful car such as these imports, etc.

Of course the wanker decided to be breif and quick to answer the question along with wanting to jump to every cops favourite question "can you pop the hood so I can have a look?".

As I did because I knew I had nothing to hide under it, he decided to look, tell me I had a few problems with the car and then talk utter bullshit to me about the mods that I've done to my car. Stating that the BOV I have is NOT allowed along with the air pod also not being allowed because its open and not within a box as a cop would see that it is a requirement for pods/filters to be in one.

He then asked me to head in, make payment for my fuel and then to come back. The cop decided while I was inside paying for the fuel, he would jump in his car and start to go through the book they carry with the list of codes and descripts for defects and fines that they can write out. I stood around for about 20-30mins waiting for this dipshit to get out and let me go.

Instead, he's in the car writting out fines and then comes over and talks to me, handin me the fines. While thats happening, he said "ok, so lets go over your car and talk about these notices". So, we did.

I simply stated to him that

a) you can not defect me for the BOV because there is no emission testing here in QLD and that atmospheric BOV's are allowed. BTW, QLD Transport have confirmed this statement for me. However, cops can fine you for undue noise or somethin in regards to noise.

b) it cops like you who put myself and other fellow car "hoons" as you proudly call us through defect stations not only wasting our time going through them, but also the time the engineers need to spend going over our cars when at the defect station because you clearly dont know what your talking about.

c) my exhaust meets all requirements and the 90db level.

After making these statements, of course the cop was not to happy with me nor was he happy that he actually then knew he was dealing with someone who knew what they were talking about.

The cop made the statement several times "I shouldnt have to be going over your car, your a nice bloke and all and I shouldnt have to put you through the inspection station but I just got to". Why did he make this statement?

Clearly cause before he wrote those fines and defect notice out, he thought he was actually dealing with someone that didnt know anything about what he wrote out on the defect notice.

I then made the statement to him "ok, so the fact I went through the inspection station approximately 4-5wks ago and your fellow officers and qld transport decided to rape us "hoons" that you call us at milton macca's on a thursday night and not defect me for the defects you just given me makes qld transport incompitent then, does it?"

he then said something along the lines that there are laws and regulations in place that I have to follow.

I said to him "well, it seems as though you cops have your own laws and qld transport have their own". After that, he still wasnt to happy with me.

I said "look, your clearly not very well trained up on this, you've wasted enough of my time. Goodbye and cya in court".

We then walked away from each other, I jumped in the car and just took off.

Lucky for me of course, my father is a lawyer. I went straight to his, passed the fines onto him letting him know that I'm taking this to court cause I knew perfectly well that I'm in the clear. My father then asked how do I know if im in the clear. Well, I told him that "before I carry out any modification on my car, I ring QLD Transport and ask to be put through to the modification department to ask questions about what I want and can do before doing them".

So, I booked a time within the 7day period from the date the defect notice was issued to me with QLD transport to go through the inspection station.

Went through the inspection station on the 13th of Sept. The car was given the green light to everything.

The fella's at QLD transport even stated that I'm the 2nd person to go through their pits that week because of this cop. The guys looked at the defect notice and I could just see the anger in them towards this cop.

Today, my father lodges the applications for this to go through the courts after we wrote them a friendly letter 3wks ago asking if they would dismiss the fines based on QLD transport clearing the car of any defects.

So far, the defect notice can be dismissed as one of the 4 statements state

"Check that the car complies with all legisilation".

Well the law also states that he has to state on the defect notice what legisilation I am to comply with. Since he has not done this, I have grounds to win this case.

We have 2 grounds to win this case

1) no listing of the legisilation laws that i've broken.

2) a written notice from QLD transport that I was given the all clear and green light on the day I was sent through the pits.

Of course, the cop will throw it back at us that i have a atmospheric BOV and no box around the air pod. QLD transport have happily stated that the BOV is allowed and a box is not required but did suggest I have one just so the cops have 1 less thing to pick on me about.

Photo's were taken when being issued the defect notice and fines.

I'll be taking photo's of course the day before court to show the judge that the engine bay is still in the same tact is was on the day i was issued the fines, etc.

later on down the track.......

Since the community has a right to submit a request for a law to be changed. I'll be making a submission both to the courts and parliment with my fathers suppose to have the law removed from the cops in regards to handing out defect notices if they think the car is defectable.

the cops use and abuse this power and law way to much and its time someone actually stood up, fight this law and have it altered or removed and since no one else is willing to do it, i'm up for the challenge!

I'll keep everyone up to date with the progress of this!

[Einstein]

it would be nice if qld police lost the power to defect, and qld transport had more defect stations

also, milton got raided a month ago? i thought the cops were sick of that place, as are the hoons? the odd thursday i'm at milton it's always empty, how odd

[Mr-Toy33]

it would be nice if qld police lost the power to defect, and qld transport had more defect stations

also, milton got raided a month ago? i thought the cops were sick of that place, as are the hoons? the odd thursday i'm at milton it's always empty, how odd

yeh, bout 3 or 4 months ago, everyone got raped there.

there would of been a easy 1 to 200 cars there that night too.

after all the post on cb and bc.... the majority of the people were way more happier to deal with qld transport as the cops had no say in defecting people.

qld transport just issued a defect notice with the request to have the defects cleared up within 2wks. no money involved which made everyone happy.

the first thursday night they did it I was put through. fortantly for me, I was the 5th or 6th person to go through.

We were all just standing around, I was filling up, then about to drive out. Cops rocked up, blocked off all entries and then i was escorted to the defect station by 3 cops bikes and i was told if i did a runner, i'd be issued with a $200 or $250 fine or whatever it was.

[Jdfnq]

We were all just standing around, I was filling up, then about to drive out. Cops rocked up, blocked off all entries and then i was escorted to the defect station by 3 cops bikes and i was told if i did a runner, i'd be issued with a $200 or $250 fine or whatever it was.

SURELY THEY SIMPLY CANNOT DO THAT!!

That has got to be harrasment!!!

They tried a similar thing up here in Cairns and alot of people just drove straight around em(where possible) or simply told the cops to go and get a warrent...

there were about 20 or so cars and we just stuck up for each other... As soon as they stuck there heads under ant bonnet, they had like 40 people going Na mate that is Ok etc etc.... They onlt defected 2 cars and they both had bald tyres....

b*stard c0ps!!!!!!!!!

[Mr-Toy33]

We were all just standing around, I was filling up, then about to drive out. Cops rocked up, blocked off all entries and then i was escorted to the defect station by 3 cops bikes and i was told if i did a runner, i'd be issued with a $200 or $250 fine or whatever it was.

SURELY THEY SIMPLY CANNOT DO THAT!!

That has got to be harrasment!!!

They tried a similar thing up here in Cairns and alot of people just drove straight around em(where possible) or simply told the cops to go and get a warrent...

there were about 20 or so cars and we just stuck up for each other... As soon as they stuck there heads under ant bonnet, they had like 40 people going Na mate that is Ok etc etc.... They onlt defected 2 cars and they both had bald tyres....

b*stard c0ps!!!!!!!!!

its against the law to run from the cops, hence the threat to issue a fine if i did do a runner. QLD transport have full rights to look under your bonnet and/or car. QLD Transport have more power then cops when it comes to things like this.

I knew I had a couple of defects on the car (the front indicator lights were not connected and my 2 gauge pillar and my air pod not being secured). I also found out that my reverse lights were not working and your not allowed to use zip ties to secure a number plate.

This was all easily fixed though and like i said, no money involved as qld transport were happy to hand out just a defect notice with 2wks to have it all fixed which i did.

[Jdfnq]

its against the law to run from the cops, hence the threat to issue a fine if i did do a runner. QLD transport have full rights to look under your bonnet and/or car. QLD Transport have more power then cops when it comes to things like this.

I knew I had a couple of defects on the car (the front indicator lights were not connected and my 2 gauge pillar and my air pod not being secured). I also found out that my reverse lights were not working and your not allowed to use zip ties to secure a number plate.

This was all easily fixed though and like i said, no money involved as qld transport were happy to hand out just a defect notice with 2wks to have it all fixed which i did.

I understand that it is against the law to run, but he never pulled you over in the first place.... I thought that you asked him a few q's and that was when he started to write out the fines...

I know that QLD transport have the authority to look under the bonnet, but i don't believe that the cops have the same rights.....

[Squishy]

f**k I HATE THAT WANKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111

he did the same sh!t to me..

[readyGO]

f**k I HATE THAT WANKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111

he did the same sh!t to me..

LOL.. I knew you'd say that

*hides ready*

[Mr-Toy33]

f**k I HATE THAT WANKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111

he did the same sh!t to me..

it'll be okkkkaayyyyyyyy!!!!

we are going to question the judge on the ability this cop seems to have in regards to handing out fines and defects after he has received training from qld transport to hand these types of fines/defects then also question the judge exactly how many other defects and/or fines he's handed out are incorrect and if he should remain within the traffic force.

be good to see this cop go through the chains of degrading to desk duty! thats for sure.

[Jdfnq]

it'll be okkkkaayyyyyyyy!!!!

we are going to question the judge on the ability this cop seems to have in regards to handing out fines and defects after he has received training from qld transport to hand these types of fines/defects then also question the judge exactly how many other defects and/or fines he's handed out are incorrect and if he should remain within the traffic force.

be good to see this cop go through the chains of degrading to desk duty! thats for sure.

Bloody oath

[Squishy]

it'll be okkkkaayyyyyyyy!!!!

we are going to question the judge on the ability this cop seems to have in regards to handing out fines and defects after he has received training from qld transport to hand these types of fines/defects then also question the judge exactly how many other defects and/or fines he's handed out are incorrect and if he should remain within the traffic force.

be good to see this cop go through the chains of degrading to desk duty! thats for sure.

that would be HOT!

I have 2 incorrect defect notices that were given 2 weeks apart for similar things.. do you need them?

[Mr-Toy33]

I got to go give some more paper work (modification rules that QLD transport gave me) to my dad tonight. I'll ask if having other people who received incorrect defect notices from this cop will help out with anythin.

will let ya know!

[Devils_Advocate21]

f-ing awesome, btw how what right does the cop if ya fillin up for petrol at the servo round the corner from me, have just walk along and say open ya bonnet, and yeah hope you bring this cop and people like him a lesson, ass mungers from hell,

Good luck and if ya win that will be even better.

[dangerous_daveo]

Hmmm I can see in 6months time some police harrasment charges all so being filed...

[r_speedfreak_r]

i got a defect notice and all it said was "defective vehicle" is that what your talking about?

[Mr-Toy33]

Hmmm I can see in 6months time some police harrasment charges all so being filed...

lol!

[Mr-Toy33]

i got a defect notice and all it said was "defective vehicle" is that what your talking about?

lol! dude, they got to list what the defect actually is on the defect notice they gave you.

if they dont, then take it to court cause for all you know, you could be payin and loosin a point for a defect that you dont even know what your being defected for.

them telling you is not enough as it needs to be written on the defect notice itself.

[R33S2]

Good to hear John, they need a heads up that we are citizens too.

[Col-GTSX]

"Stick it to the man" John

Maby that will teach other cops that their not un-touchable...

[HOT_R33]

Has anyone filed a written complaint against this officer?