My On-going Dispute With Recent Fines I Received

[Col-GTSX]

Do you think that the QLD police force might drop the charges???

I see know why many dont contest the fines... 7k is allot of money...

[Mr-Toy33]

Do you think that the QLD police force might drop the charges???

I see know why many dont contest the fines... 7k is allot of money...

there is a good chance

based on a few facts against the police right now

1 of those facts being that the car actually passed not being a defective car

so that fine is instantly dismissed as u actually need to take it to court for them to dismiss it from your records.

the 'not having a modification plate', we've only got 1 thing going in our favour for this fine which i wont say till we run it through the court. but lets say its a f**kup that the cop did with the fine.

on the other hand, these modifications dont require a modification plate at all based on the fact, qld transport classifies what i've done as 'accessories' and 'every day use of a car'.

[Howie]

Fking nice work.. good luck with it mate, i'll be keeping an eye on this thread closely.

[R33S2]

"anyone should have the right to ask any question they wish to a cop without feelin the threat that they are about to be ass raped by them with fines, etc".

There are a few on here who are still wondering why you did that, this guy in particular as well, but if you knock him down a notch or two because of this we will all benefit but..... maybe you have learned the unwritten law of dealing with cops esp dickheaded ones "let sleeping dogs lye" they have a tendancy to bite.

[Mr-Toy33]

the question being thrown everywhere at the time was "those who are under the age of 25 and already got a import, will they be effected by the law?" and since we couldnt find anything anywhere at the time, i thought i'd ask the cop.

its no wonder people are more so against police these days because of dickhead cops like this that deter us from having any form of a "friendly" type relationship with them.

[Konrad]

so you're sure the conversation got recorded? wasn't he at the service station filling his car up or something?

i'll double check with my flatmate (the cop) when she gets back this arvo but i dont think they record all conversations, but i'm guessing maybe you already know he did?

[Mr-Toy33]

dad was told that the conversation was recorded.... he even told me that i was the one that started the converstaion.

he's heard that the recording exist.

[Keegs]

police alwas record their conversations unless its not possible for them to reasonably do so. Reason being they had huge problems with confessions and evidence holding up in court, hence the court has stated in many precedent cases that police must when reasonable tape all conversations with an accused, otherwise face the consequences of a possible not guilty decision.

Recouping costs from a case like this will be near impossible. Unless there has been some kind of misconduct or the like from the officer. I would like to know what loophole your pursuing that will allow you to recover costs personally, are you going to sue him civily? Because whilst he is a police officer peforming police activities he is acting under the discretion of the QLD police force and any action would be their problem and their cost. The most you can usually do is refer a complaint to the CMC when they (if they think its a bad case) slap him on the wrist. PM me if you dont wish to discuss in an open forum, but im very interested in how your arguing this case.

Matt

[insu]

police alwas record their conversations unless its not possible for them to reasonably do so. Reason being they had huge problems with confessions and evidence holding up in court, hence the court has stated in many precedent cases that police must when reasonable tape all conversations with an accused, otherwise face the consequences of a possible not guilty decision.

Recouping costs from a case like this will be near impossible. Unless there has been some kind of misconduct or the like from the officer. I would like to know what loophole your pursuing that will allow you to recover costs personally, are you going to sue him civily? Because whilst he is a police officer peforming police activities he is acting under the discretion of the QLD police force and any action would be their problem and their cost. The most you can usually do is refer a complaint to the CMC when they (if they think its a bad case) slap him on the wrist. PM me if you dont wish to discuss in an open forum, but im very interested in how your arguing this case.

Matt

I was under the same impression Matt.

Didn't you say you found a loop hole of sorts MrToy? One that allowed you to pursue the cop at a civil level?

[shnaped_second]

Three letters for everyone

FTP

[IanB]

im going to assume you mean file transfer protocol.

Because personally I know when I call the police for help I want them to be there to help me, previous track records nonwithstanding.

Id call it a necessary evil.

[Keegs]

can you tell us exactly what the fines are and what they say?

btw, hows it going getting that law changed....no offence but id say you'll have about as much luck as selling ice to eskimo's. Noone will take the defect power away from the police, its not a public problem to cause some discomfort to modified car owners. The police were allowed to create their own act with all the powers they currently have (ppra) do you really think that they're going to take this power away. There are a whole lot more powers in there than need changing and are more of a nuisance to the public. ie. the police dog rules. (its to long to explain). But yea, good luck. Keen to see the outcome.

Edited January 26, 2007 by 33NIZ

[Keegs]

I was under the same impression Matt.

Didn't you say you found a loop hole of sorts MrToy? One that allowed you to pursue the cop at a civil level?

???

[Mr-Toy33]

i aint leakin out any info till we know everythin we need to know first.

and i said we have possibly found a loop hole which we are looking at other areas the reside to this law if we can or cant use.

[insu]

[Mr-Toy33]

case over and done with!!!!

i won the case.

got to front up now on the 30th of march to have the charges dismissed.

[R33S2]

Thats A good result John ableit a fair few details like WTF happend?

[Howie]

case over and done with!!!!

i won the case.

got to front up now on the 30th of march to have the charges dismissed.

Yes more details! Congrats mate!

[Keegs]

case over and done with!!!!

i won the case.

got to front up now on the 30th of march to have the charges dismissed.

you won everything? But they're making you go back to court to have the charges dismissed???

[insu]

You can't leave us hanging like that. Its just not fair!