Awd Rb25det?

[raZ1911]

First of all i would like to say a big hey to everyone out there. (as this is my first post ) Love the site tho allways find usefull stuff on here and good advice.

I have a couple of questions about what i should do and have some ideas dont know if they will work or not thats why i came here lol

Question 1:

Can a GTS4 be converted to have a RB25DET or would it be pointless cos it would cost to much cos of the fuss with the AWD?

Question 2:

would it be better to just buy a GTST and not worry with the fuss?

Question 3:

how much would it cost to put the RB25DET in the GTS4?

Question 4:

would the rb25det in the gts4 have better peformance than a normal gtst?

thanks in advance

Edited October 19, 2006 by raZ1911

[luke20t]

buy a r32 gts4 with a rb25de engine and rebuild it with a turbo and a 3L bottom!

[Michael_1882]

buy a r32 gts4 with a rb25de engine and rebuild it with a turbo and a 3L bottom!

That has my vote that would be a weapon

[raZ1911]

but isnt it a bad thing putting a turbo on a non turbo car, like doesnt it get problems down the track? Can this be done on a 33?

[raZ1911]

what about a Stageas AWD RB25DET and put that in it?

[blind_elk]

Which GTS4 (R32 or R33)?

R32 GTS4 only came with a RB20DET.

Stagea RB25DET is the only engine that bolts straight in (in RB25s at least - obviously RB26 is an option).

As to performance, I took my low-mod R32 GTS4 from 115 awkW up to 180 awkW (included aftermarket ECU). You be the judge if it's worthwhile.

[smurf80]

Yep go the stagea much easier solution then stuffing around with a 33 gts-4 engine.

[CeJay]

Well I just bought an r32 GTS4 with an rb25det in it, so I think that answers question 1

[Tangles]

perhaps buy a GTS4 and also a Stagea frontcut?

use the engine to get you a AWD RB25det conversion, and I know plenty of Stag owners would be interested in the front bar, the bonnet, the side panels, etc. you'd make your money back easy IMO.

[raZ1911]

would the Stagea frontcut cost much? Because i want the R33 not the R32.

[R33stagea]

there was a stagea front cut on ebay last week,at $1100???

[raZ1911]

1100! i thought it would be like 3000 or something

[paulmac]

i may be wrong coz dont know much about 33's but didnt the r33 gts4 have a 25det in it so wouldnt it be easier to buy a 33 gts4??? and as you stated you wanted an r33

ok my bad i figured the 33 was a 25det in the gts4 but its NA thought it would be the same as a 32

Edited October 20, 2006 by paulmac

[raZ1911]

yeah if it had a DET in it would be awesome and save some fuss lol

[raZ1911]

would a stagea front cut be hard to get?

[Big Rizza]

Question 4:

would the rb25det in the gts4 have better peformance than a normal gtst?

AWD added about 130kgs to the R32 GTS-T when they created the R32 GTS4. With that in mind, I would say the added weight of the AWD hardware means your car would probably actually be slower than the standard rear wheel drive car in most situations. You must also consider that when the GTS-T isn't just a GTS with a turbo engine - brakes, suspension, wheels, etc. are all upgraded to handle the extra power, and you should consider this when costing a turbo engine conversion for a non-turbo vehicle. Depending on the results you want, it would be far more cost effective to boost traction via. suspension and tyre mods rather than swapping to all wheel drive.

Just my 2c.

would a stagea front cut be hard to get?

If you can't find one in your area, companies like Prestige Motorsport will locate one in Japan to your designated specifications and import it for you.

Edited October 20, 2006 by Big Rizza

[raZ1911]

If you can't find one in your area, companies like Prestige Motorsport will locate one in Japan to your designated specifications and import it for you.

would that cost much?

[Big Rizza]

would that cost much?

Dunno how much for a Stagea, but I'd say they would be comparable to the equivalent Skyline prices. As a guide:

Nissan Skyline R33 Gts-t Series 1 2.5L turbo 1993 - 95 model (RB25DET) 5 speed manual with good condition engine and body panels

from about $3,800

Nissan Skyline R33 Gts-t Series 2 2.5L turbo 1996 - 98 model (RB25DET) 5 speed manual (hard to source)

from about $4,900

Nissan Skyline R34 GT-T 2.5L turbo 1998 to 2002 model (RB25DET NEO) 5 speed manual

from about $7,100

Front cuts are sourced from Japan as whole vehicles, tested as a running unit, then cut up and shipped as a front cut. Vehicles are chopped just behind the windscreen, and typically include the front seats, engine and wiring, transmission and tail shaft, suspension, wheels and fuel pump. If sourced to order then other small parts not usually taken from the vehicle can be included on request.

More prices at http://www.prestigemotorsport.com.au/modul...rticle.php?t=22

Edited October 20, 2006 by Big Rizza

[raZ1911]

AWD added about 130kgs to the R32 GTS-T when they created the R32 GTS4.

is that the same with the R33?

Dunno how much for a Stagea, but I'd say they would be comparable to the equivalent Skyline prices. As a guide:

Nissan Skyline R33 Gts-t Series 1 2.5L turbo 1993 - 95 model (RB25DET) 5 speed manual with good condition engine and body panels

from about $3,800

Nissan Skyline R33 Gts-t Series 2 2.5L turbo 1996 - 98 model (RB25DET) 5 speed manual (hard to source)

from about $4,900

Nissan Skyline R34 GT-T 2.5L turbo 1998 to 2002 model (RB25DET NEO) 5 speed manual

from about $7,100

Front cuts are sourced from Japan as whole vehicles, tested as a running unit, then cut up and shipped as a front cut. Vehicles are chopped just behind the windscreen, and typically include the front seats, engine and wiring, transmission and tail shaft, suspension, wheels and fuel pump. If sourced to order then other small parts not usually taken from the vehicle can be included on request.

More prices at http://www.prestigemotorsport.com.au/modul...rticle.php?t=22

yeah ill email them and ask about the cost, is there any other places that do it also just so i can ask around

[Big Rizza]

is that the same with the R33?

Yes.

yeah ill email them and ask about the cost, is there any other places that do it also just so i can ask around

Dunno if any of these guys will source half cuts from Japan to spec, but I'm sure they could point you in the right direction...

http://www.justjap.com/halfcuts.htm

http://www.adelaidejap.com.au/front%20cuts.htm

http://www.japimports.com.au/halfcuts.htm

http://www.japanesemotorsport.com.au/engines.htm

Plenty of others out there.