Mackay, Qld, Australia

[Nur33]

The world will run out if oil before we get E85 on the pump in Mackay all the major cities would be struggling to keep up with demand as there is not a huge supply of ethanol. As for street cars running on E85, It would be such a massive pain in the arse. First of all you Klms per tank is nearly halved, second you will have to keep 44 drums of fuel at your house and fill up using a juggler hose and a jerry can. 3rd you can't just go for a cruise to airlie or rocky or any of that shit unless someone follows you with drums of fuel. 4th when you run out of fuel on the side of the road your pretty much f**ked unless you run a switchable tune system like on the Vipec system. Either way I'm a lazy flamin mongrel and I could not be bothered doin that every time I wanted to drive my car down the street.

[Seano350GT]

I'm after some feedback on Clapson Automotive.

I called them this morning and spoke to Derrick, i explained to him exactly what needed done and he seemed pretty happy with it (compared to everyone else saying no to Skylines)

I just basically want some DIRECT feedback from them, i don't want any of the "oh my mate said they're shit" stories.

Derrick estimated it'd be about a 5 hour job replacing gearbox and putting in new clutch & flywheel + replacing gearbox oil. So i'm guessing that's about $600 labour.

cheers.

[Seano350GT]

I just had a chat to Mick Zammit, i'm sure most of you would know him, and he mentioned that he has known Deric for 15 odd years and he does alot of work with him and would recommend him to do the job for me.

Looks like that's a definite then, now i just need another few weeks to buy everything.

[The Mafia]

Derrick is good, I use his dyno when tuning sometimes.

Don't ever assume though - Get a written quote and find out how much an hour he charges.

[Seano350GT]

Awesome that's good Jono, haven't heard 1 bad story yet so that must be a good thing. Either way i will still go through him as i trust Mick's judgement.

Yes definitely good idea i will do this once i am ready to go ahead with the fitting. I can't wait! Then i'll be getting an exhaust and a tune then going back to the track.

[Force Fed]

Derrick is good, I use his dyno when tuning sometimes.

Don't ever assume though - Get a written quote and find out how much an hour he charges.

THIS!

and ask him for "worst case" quote....

Also, Ben, isnt that the whole point of doing a E-Flex setup? Because then you arent dependant on one fuel type and can mix it with a PUMP fuel.... Meaning you can drive around and not have to drain the fuel tank to swap to another fuel..

Edited December 11, 2012 by Force Fed

[Nur33]

I don't trust that E-flex system as far as I can kick it more shit to f**k as far as I'm concerned. Keep shit simple I say. You either run one or the other. Mixing fuel can and will end up going bad at some stage.

[Force Fed]

So............ Holden and any other manufacturer, plus tuners who are doing it now, are basically all wrong because they are dong flexible fuel systems and not limiting a car to running 2 maps that require manual switching from 1 to another?

[Spicymouse]

Also still looking for someone with an R33 GTST I can plug this power FC into and see if its the unit or my car with the problem

If anyone knows someone whos willing to help out it would be good. No hard running, the problem is at lower RPM on and off throttle so wont need to thrash the car or anything

Let me know

i can probably help with that.. aslong as the map on the pfc doesn't rape my engine....

[89CAL]

I'm not sure how the fuel sensors work, but if you could work it so its safe at 'in between' levels (e.g. cut timing a little more when it starts dropping below e80 sort of level) then it should be fine. When it senses 98 run a 98 map, when it runs e85 run an e85 map. If the sensor fails I'm pretty sure it would be self aware that the sensor is not functioning and run on a safe map. Change sensor and away you go again

But I dont know alot about these fuel sensors at the moment. Thats just how I think they would work

[89CAL]

i can probably help with that.. aslong as the map on the pfc doesn't rape my engine....

That would be sweet.. Will have to wait till I'm back from work next Wednesday now but. Does your car run a std ECU still? If so I can just make it safe. It will probably be slower then normal but it wont self destruct

[Spicymouse]

That would be sweet.. Will have to wait till I'm back from work next Wednesday now but. Does your car run a std ECU still? If so I can just make it safe. It will probably be slower then normal but it wont self destruct

yeah just standard, i have a pfc sitting on my bench but i haven't been bothered putting it in and getting it tuned just yet.. also i'm going on holiday on the 14th so anytime before then i'm free, if not i get back on the 28th.

[Nur33]

So............ Holden and any other manufacturer, plus tuners who are doing it now, are basically all wrong because they are dong flexible fuel systems and not limiting a car to running 2 maps that require manual switching from 1 to another?

On stock standard car, sure it probably works great. On hi-po turbo engine say like an RB26 making about 500-600hp like majority of street tuned GTRs, personally I would not be running that system too many variables and constant checking of the tunes is probably required.

Ah I don't care anymore do what's you's want I'll just stick to building my race cars.

[89CAL]

hmm might have to wait till after new years then. I'm home till about lunch on Saturday then back out to work till the 19th I think it is.

[Force Fed]

How does a Flex fuel setup require 'constant checking' over a normal tune for a motor?

It's the same shit, just the flex fuel allows you to move from one fuel to another without the issue of swapping maps, draining fuel tanks or even pluggin in a laptop.... the ecu does EVERYTHING for you.. It can even Increase or decrease boost pressure to suit the blend of fuel in it.

Edited December 11, 2012 by Force Fed

[Spicymouse]

hmm might have to wait till after new years then. I'm home till about lunch on Saturday then back out to work till the 19th I think it is.

Yeah i work till 12 then at 1 i'm on a plane so i can't help you mate.. hit me up after the 28th and i'll help you out!

[Nur33]

Doesn't matter we don't have E85 on pump anyways it's a pointless endeavour at the moment might as well stick to 98ron fuel for street car.

[KING87]

I'm just gonna keep drums. But I'm not as lazy as some others or use as much either now I think of it

[Nur33]

Haha don't lie Kingy your a Electrician, you fall asleep standing up.

[daywalker05]

hey we are good at that.. lol... thats our special skill we have to master