Hey fellas....car buying decisions...*sigh*

[Guest ShtyleZ]

Hey guys!

Just signed up and damn some of you have some beauties!

Anywho to cut to the chase...

about to hit 18 and the decision making needs to be done...

i don't know anything about cars but i'm trying to find somethin and so far i like the look of skylines and 180sx's...

if any of you could help with providing some stats or info, pros and cons on the 2 and just telling me the whats and why's etc...?

It'd be LOTS of help!! Thanks guys!!!

ShtyleZ aka Dave

[Chef_32]

cash flow pending, r33 is newer, bigger engine, heavier, more cylinder, more spacious, more comfortable, etc....

depends what your lookin for in a car, what you can afford, and what looks more promising.....

[33Spec2]

i think you mite find we r gonna b bias towards skylines being a skylines forum and all so in conclusion............buy a skyline!

[rb26dett]

the 180 will be a better car to drift in, seeing as the silvia's chasis is preferred by most japanese guys who are starting to learn how to drift. it all really depends on what you want the car for and how much you wanna spend for/on it.

[aybee]

Originally posted by 33Spec2

i think you mite find we r gonna b bias towards skylines being a skylines forum and all so in conclusion............buy a skyline!

to be more specific... by a 32:D

[WazR32GTSt]

you need to learn how to drive before you start drifting etc...

buy a NA car which is very forgiving for a young driver whilst saving for a monster GTR to get as soon as you get off your P's!

[Airzone]

1 word - Insurance. If you want full comprehensive insurance, I hope you have a fat wallet that doesn't mind being totally emptied. Male (I assume with a name like Dave) + <25 + Import + Turbo = :cry:

I can't comment on much, but when I was in a 180 ('89 ca18det), it felt quite sporty with the turbo coming on pretty hard. But my skyline (r33) feels a lot smoother and refined. I'm sure the other guys can give reasons for this (such as engine sizes, etc)

Your best bet would be to take 1 of each for a spin and feel the differences for yourself. Maybe some Melbourne owners will give you a ride in theirs to get a feel of what the cars are like, and what various mods can do.

[33Spec2]

no no a R33! or R34!

[foshan]

go the n/a skyline!!!

hows the cashflow looking?

u will save heaps on insurance but it will look exactly the same.

[aybee]

a 180 is (generally) cheaper to buy and to insure

[Guest ShtyleZ]

Thanks guys

sorry didn't add enough info...

Well to add info, i have 20k to spend on a car.

and i want 4k or less insurance a year....

i want something that has 'GO' but something that isn't to bad inside... (comfy i thinkw as mentioned?)

thanks for the posts!

[Guest ShtyleZ]

Just cars insurance gave me this quote by the way... (good bad or ugly?)

Policy Type COMPREHENSIVE

Vehicle Use PRIVATE

Quote Valid to 28/04/2003

Vehicle Purchase Price $15,990

Your Car

1995 NISSAN SKYLINE GTS HR33 COUPE (IMPORT) 6 CYL MAN

Insurance based on following Driver Details

DATE OF BIRTH 25/6/1985

SEX Male

YEARS OF INSURANCE 0

NCB%/RATING 0% NCB/RATING 6

thats with NO mods.....

they move even with no mods yah? (skylines)

thanks again

[JimX]

ShtyleZ, I don't think the combination of <18 years old, <$20k performance car with <$4k insurance is a possible combination.

Unless you can somehow swing the insurance via your dad's work or something, if he can get fleet insurance. I've heard of people doing that before, lumping their own policy in with their parents' company and paying even less than a >30 year old with 60% NCB can get on their own.

[dAVE]

hehe, u can buy my car. Third party is under $500 with just cars

[Guest ShtyleZ]

ahh i forgot, that insurance quote i posted just above....came to $4,010....

i didn't think it was too bad

[Guest Sir Bean]

Originally posted by ShtyleZ

 Your Car  

 1995 NISSAN SKYLINE GTS HR33 COUPE (IMPORT) 6 CYL MAN  

 

 

Dude, i think this quote is for a NON TURBO skyline !!

Add a t to the GTS, (GTS-turbo!) and see what they quote

-yes, skylines are much more "liveable" inside than 180's.

-it depends what your used to, if your not used to qik cars then a unmodded skyline will move. If your used to a modded skyline, then an unmodded one is slow, and you'll get done by VL commodores with RB20 conversions

[Guest ShtyleZ]

ahh thanks heaps bean!

like i said i don't know much bout cars so cheers for pointing out the screw up !

Cheers

[docile]

Hey. I was in a similiar situation to you when i first turned 18. I really wanted a 180sx, but realistically i couldnt even afford the car, let alone the insurance. Drove around in an EA falcon for a while, then a brand new corrolla and then i bought an XF falcon. Also got to get a fair bit of driving experience in V8 commy's. Anyway two years later i can now genuinely afford a decent car. Im now looking for a car and i can afford to spend 23-25K before insurance. Was it worth. Hell yes

180's are great cars, but kinda small and a little less practical than a skyline. I would love a 180sx but i need some comfort and room!

Lifes tough when you have to make choices like these!!

Buy a shit car, get some driving experience, save some more money and get a better car in a years time!

Mat

[aybee]

i did an online quote on a stock 94 skyline (just to get an idea) and it was something like $8600 for a 20year old rating 5

[Nacho Vidal]

docile, thats good advice, especially about the driving experience. I hate to think how many P-plated turbo cars have been put into trees etc.

We all remember being 18, we wanted it all then and there!

Real tough decision ShtyleZ, especially if your a car buff, im sure we all feel for you!

Personally if it were me in your situation, id just get the car without insurance. No its not the smart way to do it, and if you have a heavy foot, it could set you back a LONG WAY if you damage someone elses car/property! I risked it when i was 18, and i crashed the first 2 of my cars (V8 toranas though, which back then they were the shit, imports were little known!), just lucky i hit a stop sign and not a car (had to pay for the sign though!)

good luck dude. Good things come to those who wait! (although ive never been able to do that )