Cefiro Zenki And Kouki Difference?

[4DoorWhore]

reason im asking is because im about to JCI my cefiro here in Japan and for some reason its registered as a 300 plate not a 500 plate. which is a bit more money, i have seen many other cefiros with a 500 plate, and to my eyes i saw no difference that would justify a 300 plate (ie wider body, more weight, bigger engine) my car currently has a RB20E the weakest of the weak.

so is there something im not seeing?

my car -

1992 Cefiro

RB20E

Round style headlights

any help.... many thanks.

[Dan_J]

movin away from your question..... y do u hav a non turbo a31 ....ur in japan of all places.. -.-

[4DoorWhore]

yeah ignore that... long story short i wrecked my Skyline on the touge while me and a few japanese guys were having a bit to much fun. one of the guys who felt a bit responsible, you know how the japanese are, well he had a cefiro lying around and said i could have it.

i picked up a SR20DET my friend ha lying around, and as soon as i JCI this thing ill bring it back up to speed litterally... total project cost so far- maybe $100 for cefiro conversion harness rest was free. oh and JCI. moving on...

Edited October 28, 2006 by 4DoorWhore

[toffy]

if your asking if the body is any different then no

[4DoorWhore]

thats what i thought... did certain models weigh more than others?

and im just curious to see the zenki kouki differences

[toffy]

http://specs.amayama.com/nissan/cefiro/

google is your friend

[4DoorWhore]

ok so i found out my 92 cefiro is 10mm total wider than a 91 and before. still not enough to make it a 300 plate... hmm oh well im going to the Land office and im going to make them change it... wish me luck...

thanks for the find toffy!

[Resin]

what is this 'zenki kouki'

and 500 plate and 300 plate?

[daisu]

AFAIK, zenki and kouki is early and late model?

I have noticed that the automatic center console changed shapes between early and late models, all the manual consoles I've seen look the same style as the early autos, but I can't be certain I've seen a late model factory manual.

Anyone else noticed this?

Also, I've noticed a different style of instrument cluster (different font for the numbers). Not sure whether this is a early/late difference or a badge difference (ie cheap model versus expensive upper model).

[4DoorWhore]

yeah these are the differences i would like to document in this thread... i have a 92 which is the latest of the A31 models i will take some detailed pics of the interior and body soon.

*** oh and as for my quest for a 500 plate i found out that my car is about 7cm too long. and .5cm to wide on each side. and we are guessing 70kilos over weight but that is a rough estimate.

solution: take off the moldings which seem to be bigger this year. and remove the metal crash bumpers (bars) and stock bumpers and replace with FRP pieces.

Resin: 500 and 300 classify the class your car is in when it is registerd in japan. best example is, a S13 silvia is a 500 plate cause its a normal sized car, and a S14 silvia is a 300 plate beacause its a little wider than usual and heavier and longer. is you add more than 3cm to widen a 500 plate it will become a 300 plate.

the plate number determines a few things but the main thing im consernd about is the extra cost of the larger car. such as higher price for road tax etc... there are many sub classes in between but since i am military i only apply to those two and K cars which are really cheap cause there so small. hope this helps im not to good at explaining things.

might as well post this pic since you can prolly see some differences..

Edited October 31, 2006 by 4DoorWhore

[Mr Eps]

...you live next door to a hearse? that is freakin' sweet!

[4DoorWhore]

no haha i just have a parking spot, next to the hearse, at the Auto-shop where i do all the work on the car... that hearse has been there forever, definatly somthing you dont see in japan though..

fyi: white wheels arent permanent... eek

Edited October 31, 2006 by 4DoorWhore

[funkymonkey]

RB20E eeeeeeew

although for shits and giggles I have a Holden RB30E rocker cover that'll fit onto it straight on... and then you'll have a HOLDEN powered CEFIRO!

That'll impress the nihonjin

[4DoorWhore]

RB20E eeeeeeew

although for shits and giggles I have a Holden RB30E rocker cover that'll fit onto it straight on... and then you'll have a HOLDEN powered CEFIRO!

That'll impress the nihonjin

SOHC and all huh i would pay you for it, just to get a few laughs... wonder what shipping would be...

Edited November 1, 2006 by 4DoorWhore

[aphid]

off topic mate, but military eh? which kind of military

yeah these are the differences i would like to document in this thread... i have a 92 which is the latest of the A31 models i will take some detailed pics of the interior and body soon.

*** oh and as for my quest for a 500 plate i found out that my car is about 7cm too long. and .5cm to wide on each side. and we are guessing 70kilos over weight but that is a rough estimate.

solution: take off the moldings which seem to be bigger this year. and remove the metal crash bumpers (bars) and stock bumpers and replace with FRP pieces.

Resin: 500 and 300 classify the class your car is in when it is registerd in japan. best example is, a S13 silvia is a 500 plate cause its a normal sized car, and a S14 silvia is a 300 plate beacause its a little wider than usual and heavier and longer. is you add more than 3cm to widen a 500 plate it will become a 300 plate.

the plate number determines a few things but the main thing im consernd about is the extra cost of the larger car. such as higher price for road tax etc... there are many sub classes in between but since i am military i only apply to those two and K cars which are really cheap cause there so small. hope this helps im not to good at explaining things.

might as well post this pic since you can prolly see some differences..

[4DoorWhore]

ahh i still havent taken pics... sucks when you can just walk outside your house to look at your car... i need to finish the damn registration...

anyways.. to answer you question... im in the US Air Force, stationed at Yokota AFB here in japan. The easiest way for me to get to japan was to join the military.

[funkymonkey]

Behold the mighty holden RB30ET:

Seems like the rocker cover I had access to has been sold... but if you want one, it can't be too hard to source.

[4DoorWhore]

haha thats alright bro... hopefully ill pass inspection on tuesday, and have that "all mighty" RB20E ripped out by wenesday...

[open24hours]

i have a 92 which is the latest of the A31 models i will take some detailed pics of the interior and body soon.

They made at least a few in '93, I own one. Also with an rb20e At least it isn't a ca18i.

Edited November 12, 2006 by open24hours

[4DoorWhore]

please take some pics of the interior and body... nothing crazy just a shot of the dash and side shot of the car will do...