itbmils Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 OK guys and gals I have an R32 GTR with a twin plate clutch that is in need of repair / replace. It has not started to slip yet, but I get some serious groaning sounds when at the balance point, and the clutch only needs to be pressed about an inch for it to disengage (which I understand can be adjusted – yes ?) So ..... I have a few questions. I do not know the make/model of the current twin plate as it was in the car when I got it just over 2 years ago. 1: It's an '89 R32 GTR – so how do I find out if it's a push or pull. Could it have been converted. (apologies in advance if this is a silly question ) 2: Should I reco the exiting twin plate or replace it with a conventional single plate clutch. The car is a daily driver – currently seeing about 300awkw. My current thinking is to swap over to a single plate to make the car a little easier in traffic (as long as it can take the stress) and sell the twin plate on the forum. I'm open to suggestions and recommendations here pps Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/140975-r32-gtr-clutch-questions/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Baron Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 1. more than likely it's push. but it's easy to check, just get down on the ground and have a peak at the slave set-up. see if it's push or pull. 2. depends if you are happy with the current clutch. if not, then search out something else. if you are then a rebuild may be the go. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/140975-r32-gtr-clutch-questions/#findComment-2625273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
itbmils Posted October 30, 2006 Author Share Posted October 30, 2006 1. more than likely it's push. but it's easy to check, just get down on the ground and have a peak at the slave set-up. see if it's push or pull.2. depends if you are happy with the current clutch. if not, then search out something else. if you are then a rebuild may be the go. thanks BB just checked - the slave cylinder seems to be a push type to me I am happy with the current clutch - but if I can get a better fly / clutch / presure plate setup for the same cost as a rebuild - I'd consider it I'm guessing that a rebuild should be around the $1200 mark - is that a fair guess ? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/140975-r32-gtr-clutch-questions/#findComment-2625661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1GTR Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 I was quoted $1500 by Jim Berry to rebuild a Nismo twin, for that price id just buy a new one and throw the old one away Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/140975-r32-gtr-clutch-questions/#findComment-2625880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Baron Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 well if it's OS Giken and the flywheel is ok, and the diaphragm is ok, and the bearing is ok, then you just need: pressure plate disc sandwhich plate 2 X clutch plates new bolts cost will be around $1K and you can "rebuild" it yourself. Just pull it appart, and re-asemble in the same order it came appart. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/140975-r32-gtr-clutch-questions/#findComment-2626007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
itbmils Posted October 30, 2006 Author Share Posted October 30, 2006 (edited) well if it's OS Giken and the flywheel is ok, and the diaphragm is ok, and the bearing is ok, then you just need:pressure plate disc sandwhich plate 2 X clutch plates new bolts cost will be around $1K and you can "rebuild" it yourself. Just pull it appart, and re-asemble in the same order it came appart. seems like a lot of IFs in that post how difficult is it to remove the g-box ? If I get my mechanic to do it - how many hours ? Edited October 30, 2006 by itbmils Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/140975-r32-gtr-clutch-questions/#findComment-2626084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Baron Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 remove and replace gearbox, inlcuding replace clutch probably about $400. could be as low as $300 and as high as $600 depending on where you go, and what they charge. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/140975-r32-gtr-clutch-questions/#findComment-2626103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angus Smart Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 My gearbox removal/conversion cost me 600 i think.. i think somewhere in there there would have been a week of hoist time too damn clutch confusion! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/140975-r32-gtr-clutch-questions/#findComment-2626165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Baron Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 that's pretty good considering you were switching boxes too so there would have been some stuffing around for sure. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/140975-r32-gtr-clutch-questions/#findComment-2626184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angus Smart Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 that's pretty good considering you were switching boxes too so there would have been some stuffing around for sure. Haha. yeah 3 clutches later! 3 tries! haha so yeah. a bit of stuffing around Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/140975-r32-gtr-clutch-questions/#findComment-2626212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATGTS-R Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 Silly question, sort of, but if you have a traditional rattling twin plate and have it recoed is it possible for it to be modified so as to do away with the rattle? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/140975-r32-gtr-clutch-questions/#findComment-2627765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angus Smart Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 Silly question, sort of, but if you have a traditional rattling twin plate and have it recoed is it possible for it to be modified so as to do away with the rattle? I wouldnt think so.. whats wrong with the rattle? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/140975-r32-gtr-clutch-questions/#findComment-2628423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLIPPERY Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 im in exactly the same boat as itbmils say we dont rebuild the twin....would say, an xtreme 5/6 puck ceramic be able to hold 300-320rwkw if limiter launches were to be avoided and not overly ridden? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/140975-r32-gtr-clutch-questions/#findComment-2631047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRZY32 Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 im in exactly the same boat as itbmilssay we dont rebuild the twin....would say, an xtreme 5/6 puck ceramic be able to hold 300-320rwkw if limiter launches were to be avoided and not overly ridden? I just spoke to Xtreme. They advise to use the XTRA XTRA HEAVY DUTY DSB clutch range which should support up to 350-400 rwkw on a GTR. For my late 93 R32 GTR (pull type) Im considering the KNI25003DSBXXHD kit. Its a 6-button carbotic clutch with about 1500kg clamp pressure. Should be very street drivable and should take the punishment of circuit racing and the occasional rev-limiter launch. They reccommend 'solid centre' clutches for constant drag racing and high rev launches. DSB range is a good compromise for street/track! http://www.xtremeclutch.com.au/knowledge_ratings.htm Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/140975-r32-gtr-clutch-questions/#findComment-2635943 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 I was quoted $1500 by Jim Berry to rebuild a Nismo twin, for that price id just buy a new one and throw the old one away I am in need of a new clutch an a Nismo Supercopper Twin is what I am after. $1650ish from Perfect Run, not delivered. $1850ish delivered from Nengun. Then $400-$600 fitted you say? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/140975-r32-gtr-clutch-questions/#findComment-2636141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1GTR Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 I am in need of a new clutch an a Nismo Supercopper Twin is what I am after.$1650ish from Perfect Run, not delivered. $1850ish delivered from Nengun. Then $400-$600 fitted you say? I need a new one aswel! Hows the timing ?! Anyway.....the ones im looking at are: Nismo twin from Nengun http://www.nengun.com/catalogue/product/509 Nismo twin from perfectrun http://www.perfectrun.com.au/performance%2...ppermixTwin.htm For early ones though there are 2 choices: 670ps 9807 (1000kg)spring rate 3002A-RS594 ¥150700 Only for push type cluchStandard spec 740ps 10787 (1100kg)spring rate 3002A-RR593-C ¥162900 Only for push type cluch Competition spec Now the 670 one would be the quiet one, and the 740 would be the rattler ( AFAIK ). The rattling doesnt bother me, but if the street spec one will do then that will be the one to go for Also, perfect run have this page http://www.perfectrun.com.au/ordering/freight_list.htm ...which shows shipping costs, unlike nengun who of course do it for you I have considered all the other twins out there, but the nismo ones have the best reputation from the people ive spoken to about them. The next one in line would be an OSGiken twin - but without trying for a discount from anywhere, have a look here: http://www.otomoto.com.au/osgiken/str_twin_plate.htm I guess the wholesale would be around the same as a nismo twin delivered When do you need your clutch by if you dont mind me asking? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/140975-r32-gtr-clutch-questions/#findComment-2637808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 Nismo twin from Nengunhttp://www.nengun.com/catalogue/product/509 Nismo twin from perfectrun http://www.perfectrun.com.au/performance%2...ppermixTwin.htm When do you need your clutch by if you dont mind me asking? Why you wanna split freight?! . I can put up with mine for a while, its still bites pretty good so its drivable. I need to pay off my suspension first anyway. But before that is Christmas ......ah, I need so much money right now! Mine is an August '93 model so I need the pull type standard 3002B-RS599 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/140975-r32-gtr-clutch-questions/#findComment-2638760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1GTR Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 Why you wanna split freight?! . I can put up with mine for a while, its still bites pretty good so its drivable. I need to pay off my suspension first anyway. But before that is Christmas ......ah, I need so much money right now!Mine is an August '93 model so I need the pull type standard 3002B-RS599 Haha, shame you're in W.A. otherwise we could do that if you wanted Yeah i want to look at the OSGikens a bit more before spending the cash to be honest, so ill keep on it Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/140975-r32-gtr-clutch-questions/#findComment-2638918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTR-26R Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 jim berry's "Full Monty" single plate is all you will ever need, thay are drivable on a daily basis and can do low 10 second qeuarters and they are about $1000 in my mind its the only option!! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/140975-r32-gtr-clutch-questions/#findComment-2639998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 Does Jimmy do twins? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/140975-r32-gtr-clutch-questions/#findComment-2640559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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