Pillowball Upper Mounts

[Onthehunt]

hi guys,

looking at getting tein super streets(oz spec). Not sure about whether to get pillowball upper mounts as well.

Some people say definitely don't get them as they are so firm they can damage the towers and lots of other things which can lead to big problems. On the other hand others say definitely get them they say much better for handling and they have never had any problems in any car they have put them in?

What should i do, get them or not? what does everyone think from past experiences? is there much maintenance for them as well...although not a big deal in decision making?

thanks

[Sydneykid]

This thread explains the maintenance required;

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...howtopic=144892

This thread explains why spherical bearings are not a good idea;

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...mp;hl=spherical

cheers

[Onthehunt]

This thread explains the maintenance required;

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...howtopic=144892

This thread explains why spherical bearings are not a good idea;

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...mp;hl=spherical

cheers

hey SK

i read all of that but got lost in everyhting. for me using car only on street but with spirited driving most of the time....should i put pillowball upper mounts for my super streets? Would it be worth it?

[Sydneykid]

hey SK

i read all of that but got lost in everyhting. for me using car only on street but with spirited driving most of the time....should i put pillowball upper mounts for my super streets? Would it be worth it?

Nope

1. they will wear out quick and then they will knock like a bustard and drive you crazy

2. they will not absorb any NVH (Noise, Vibration and Harshness) which will be passed in to the cabin

3. they will pass all vibration and any impacts striaght to the sub frame and or chassis, which will eventually crack

4. when they do wear out, you most likely won't be able to buy new sphericals so you will have ot buy complete new strut tops

5. If you service them, say twice a year, they will last a little longer, but do you really want to be pulling the 4 spring and shock units out of the car every 6 months to service them?

cheers

[SkyKC]

Nope

1. they will wear out quick and then they will knock like a bustard and drive you crazy

2. they will not absorb any NVH (Noise, Vibration and Harshness) which will be passed in to the cabin

3. they will pass all vibration and any impacts striaght to the sub frame and or chassis, which will eventually crack

4. when they do wear out, you most likely won't be able to buy new sphericals so you will have ot buy complete new strut tops

5. If you service them, say twice a year, they will last a little longer, but do you really want to be pulling the 4 spring and shock units out of the car every 6 months to service them?

cheers

Sorry for not having much knowledge, doesnt this teint coil-overs come as pillowball upper mounts as standerd? if not whats the other one you call?.bottom line is pilowball uper mounts give lots of headacke, so whats the other solution for that?

[Sydneykid]

Sorry for not having much knowledge, doesnt this teint coil-overs come as pillowball upper mounts as standerd? if not whats the other one you call?.bottom line is pilowball uper mounts give lots of headacke, so whats the other solution for that?

Use the standard Nissan upper mounts. You don't need sperical bearings on R32/33/34, they are double wishbone suspension front and rear, so the shocks mounts DO NOT control the suspension geometry. The upper and lower control arms control the geometry. I can guarantee you that using spherical bearing strut tops will not improve the handling on you road Skyline ONE LITTE BIT.

cheers

[Onthehunt]

hey SK,

thanks alot for advice and help. i will go without the pillow ball mounts.

cheers

[dangerous_daveo]

Nope

1. they will wear out quick and then they will knock like a bustard and drive you crazy

2. they will not absorb any NVH (Noise, Vibration and Harshness) which will be passed in to the cabin

3. they will pass all vibration and any impacts striaght to the sub frame and or chassis, which will eventually crack

4. when they do wear out, you most likely won't be able to buy new sphericals so you will have ot buy complete new strut tops

5. If you service them, say twice a year, they will last a little longer, but do you really want to be pulling the 4 spring and shock units out of the car every 6 months to service them?

cheers

And thats EXACTLY what my mechanic has just told me with mine but then mine did last a bit longer...

Either way with s13 suspenion (ie cefiro) is there any other way around it with the coilovers?

[Sydneykid]

And thats EXACTLY what my mechanic has just told me with mine but then mine did last a bit longer...

Either way with s13 suspenion (ie cefiro) is there any other way around it with the coilovers?

Yep, use an adjustable strut top with polyurethane bushing.

cheers

[dangerous_daveo]

Yep, use an adjustable strut top with polyurethane bushing.

cheers

So next question is, who does them, where can I get them from, and how much roughly would they be

[R.C]

So next question is, who does them, where can I get them from, and how much roughly would they be

I'm trying to find out the same thing. My 33 had tein flex with pillowball mounts when I got it, they have worn and are rattling especially when going over uneven roads (which is most of the time). I was quoted around $430 for new pillow ball mounts from Fulcrum suspension.

Wouldn't mind finding some urathane mounts if the price isn't bad, in the end it is just annoying listening to them rattle.

[Sydneykid]

So next question is, who does them, where can I get them from, and how much roughly would they be

I have finished the engineering with Noltec on the S13 S14 and S15 strut tops. PM me for details.

For Skylines, use the standard strut tops. Check around the For Sale forum, plenty of guys have bought coil over kits (poor buggars) and are selling their standard stuff.

cheers

[dangerous_daveo]

I have finished the engineering with Noltec on the S13 S14 and S15 strut tops. PM me for details.

For Skylines, use the standard strut tops. Check around the For Sale forum, plenty of guys have bought coil over kits (poor buggars) and are selling their standard stuff.

cheers

Awesome as, PM sent!

[Godzilla32]

You may have read on the troubles im having with using the standard R32 strut tops with aftermarket springs and shocks (Apexi N1). If the tein's are the same (from memory they are) OD spring then it wont be a straight fit on the rear not to menton the front which is a tapered spring as standard sp i would imagine the original strut top is designed to take a much larger coil on it...