N I B Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Sorry if this is a repost. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146699-rick-kelly-should-have-been-shot-into-the-sheets/page/10/#findComment-2750925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
benm Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Still a better paintjob than Lowndes` car! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146699-rick-kelly-should-have-been-shot-into-the-sheets/page/10/#findComment-2751123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 How good is Deano,,,10th at the end of the year,,,another great prospect for 2007. Rocky would be proud. Oh and before I forget,,,if you have a copy of AutoAction,,,have a look on page 44...what the hell does that tall girl/um bloke have happening in its bikini bottoms?. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146699-rick-kelly-should-have-been-shot-into-the-sheets/page/10/#findComment-2751238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackrex Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Oh and before I forget,,,if you have a copy of AutoAction,,,have a look on page 44...what the hell does that tall girl/um bloke have happening in its bikini bottoms?. Can anyone say, Camel Toe? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146699-rick-kelly-should-have-been-shot-into-the-sheets/page/10/#findComment-2751278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
benm Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 Beer Baron wants u to post pics of the he-she. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146699-rick-kelly-should-have-been-shot-into-the-sheets/page/10/#findComment-2752317 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesyboi Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 good racing, but perhaps Lowndes should of won it if it wasn't for the love tap Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146699-rick-kelly-should-have-been-shot-into-the-sheets/page/10/#findComment-2753277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russman Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 I just finished watching it (I taped it) and I don't think Rick should be satisfied to say that he was the fair winner. Lowndes was more likely to win because he had a better car. It's bad that Garth did so much blocking to slow Craig down in the 2nd race. Lowndes blocks once in the third and Rick took him out. Just shows to me how good lowndes is as a driver. Everyone knows it. He's just a notch better than the rest and he deserved the win. Oh well bring on next year. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146699-rick-kelly-should-have-been-shot-into-the-sheets/page/10/#findComment-2754092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scathing Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 I just finished watching it (I taped it) and I don't think Rick should be satisfied to say that he was the fair winner. Lowndes was more likely to win because he had a better car. It's bad that Garth did so much blocking to slow Craig down in the 2nd race. While Lowndes might have had the better car, clearly Kelly had the better team. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146699-rick-kelly-should-have-been-shot-into-the-sheets/page/10/#findComment-2754458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mid life crisis Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 one for the ford sooks Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146699-rick-kelly-should-have-been-shot-into-the-sheets/page/10/#findComment-2755544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russman Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 While Lowndes might have had the better car, clearly Kelly had the better team. Better team? I say dirtier team. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146699-rick-kelly-should-have-been-shot-into-the-sheets/page/10/#findComment-2755861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZ_Pomy Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 see above post and grab a handle full of tissues Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146699-rick-kelly-should-have-been-shot-into-the-sheets/page/10/#findComment-2755964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scathing Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Better team? I say dirtier team. Mating call of the loser. Holden won within the bounds of the rules. That Ford wasn't in a situation where they could box Kelly in just shows how far behind the pace their cars or drivers are. Aside from Ford's star driver, they couldn't get enough competitors up into the pointy end of the field to advance their team's cause. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146699-rick-kelly-should-have-been-shot-into-the-sheets/page/10/#findComment-2756108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kel Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 one for the ford sooks Am I the only one chuckling at how long it took Holden fans to come up with response on this Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146699-rick-kelly-should-have-been-shot-into-the-sheets/page/10/#findComment-2756270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctjet Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 one for the ford sooks hahahaha... one in the shape of a tiny violin would have been a killer Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146699-rick-kelly-should-have-been-shot-into-the-sheets/page/10/#findComment-2756317 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiplash Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 lol Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146699-rick-kelly-should-have-been-shot-into-the-sheets/page/10/#findComment-2756388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russman Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Mating call of the loser.Holden won within the bounds of the rules. That Ford wasn't in a situation where they could box Kelly in just shows how far behind the pace their cars or drivers are. Aside from Ford's star driver, they couldn't get enough competitors up into the pointy end of the field to advance their team's cause. Within the rules yeah for sure but if kelly didn't hit him Lowndes would more likely have won. Kelly can't be satisfied with that as a fair win. Lets all get our cars to get to the front just to stop the faster car from getting away. Yeah awesome... Mating call of the loser??? what are you.. national geographic? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146699-rick-kelly-should-have-been-shot-into-the-sheets/page/10/#findComment-2756455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scathing Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Within the rules yeah for sure but if kelly didn't hit him Lowndes would more likely have won. Kelly can't be satisfied with that as a fair win. Yeah, and if everyone just pulled out of the race Lowndes would more likely have won too. Or if everyone just pulled out of the way and lifted off the throttle whenver Lowndes approached, he'd more likely have won. Please. Have a whinge. Last time I checked they were racing for position, not running in a time attack. And when you race for position, you have the right to defend that position. If the the contact was anything but a racing incident, the stewards would have done something during or after the race. From my perspective (given that I don't follow V8 Supercars, and I couldn't give a toss about Ford nor Holden but I do like motorsport, is pretty independent) it looked to me like Lowndes drove into Kelly. If you look at the side angle shot, you can see Lowndes angle across the road to avoid running into the back of Todd. When you see the in-car footage from Rick's car, the white line marking the edge of the track is right next to the car (showing that he's at the extreme edge of the track), and doesn't change at all. So Rick never deviated from his line all the way up to the moment of impact. And, at that point in the track (high speed and deep into the braking point of a pretty tight turn) there's very little margin of error to steer around in at the best of times, let alone being on the wrong side of the track for the race line. With Rick at the extreme right of the track, and Lowndes occupying the middle, there was nowhere for Rick to go. If he'd gone any further right he'd be on the grass, which would have had him either spin out or lose grip in the braking zone. If he'd gone left, he would have clipped the tail end of Lowndes car anyway. The difference being that, in that situation, he actually would have been at fault. So he held his line, and Lowndes tried to cut in and ended up clipping him instead. Lowndes got blocked by a very slow moving Todd, pure and simple. And instead of passively allowing himself to get ganged up on by the opposing team, he decided to try and muscle into a gap between the two Holdens that simply wasn't there. An aggressive move, one that I'd expect from a racing driver in championship contention, but evidently the wrong one. And paid the penalty for his error in judgement. Lets all get our cars to get to the front just to stop the faster car from getting away. You have to actually be, you know, fast to get all your cars up to the front. How the f**k do you get a slower car in front of a faster car, unless they're being lapped (which wasn't the case here). It sounds like you have little to no idea about how motor racing actually works. So, QED when it comes to my comment about Ford not being able to string a decent team of drivers and cars together since evidently Holden was dominating the top of the field. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146699-rick-kelly-should-have-been-shot-into-the-sheets/page/10/#findComment-2756652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russman Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Yeah, and if everyone just pulled out of the race Lowndes would more likely have won too. Or if everyone just pulled out of the way and lifted off the throttle whenver Lowndes approached, he'd more likely have won.Please. Have a whinge. Last time I checked they were racing for position, not running in a time attack. And when you race for position, you have the right to defend that position. If the the contact was anything but a racing incident, the stewards would have done something during or after the race. From my perspective (given that I don't follow V8 Supercars, and I couldn't give a toss about Ford nor Holden but I do like motorsport, is pretty independent) it looked to me like Lowndes drove into Kelly. If you look at the side angle shot, you can see Lowndes angle across the road to avoid running into the back of Todd. When you see the in-car footage from Rick's car, the white line marking the edge of the track is right next to the car (showing that he's at the extreme edge of the track), and doesn't change at all. So Rick never deviated from his line all the way up to the moment of impact. And, at that point in the track (high speed and deep into the braking point of a pretty tight turn) there's very little margin of error to steer around in at the best of times, let alone being on the wrong side of the track for the race line. With Rick at the extreme right of the track, and Lowndes occupying the middle, there was nowhere for Rick to go. If he'd gone any further right he'd be on the grass, which would have had him either spin out or lose grip in the braking zone. If he'd gone left, he would have clipped the tail end of Lowndes car anyway. The difference being that, in that situation, he actually would have been at fault. So he held his line, and Lowndes tried to cut in and ended up clipping him instead. Lowndes got blocked by a very slow moving Todd, pure and simple. And instead of passively allowing himself to get ganged up on by the opposing team, he decided to try and muscle into a gap between the two Holdens that simply wasn't there. An aggressive move, one that I'd expect from a racing driver in championship contention, but evidently the wrong one. And paid the penalty for his error in judgement. You have to actually be, you know, fast to get all your cars up to the front. How the f**k do you get a slower car in front of a faster car, unless they're being lapped (which wasn't the case here). It sounds like you have little to no idea about how motor racing actually works. So, QED when it comes to my comment about Ford not being able to string a decent team of drivers and cars together since evidently Holden was dominating the top of the field. Please have a whinge... HSV/HRT TEAM will probably not be owned by the same mob (Walkinshaw) next year so it might be better for competition. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146699-rick-kelly-should-have-been-shot-into-the-sheets/page/10/#findComment-2756881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scathing Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 HSV/HRT TEAM will probably not be owned by the same mob (Walkinshaw) next year so it might be better for competition. TWR sold HSV to Mark Skaife in 2003. He's back managing it, but he's certainly not the owner anymore. Does your ignorance know any bounds? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146699-rick-kelly-should-have-been-shot-into-the-sheets/page/10/#findComment-2756929 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctjet Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Does your ignorance know any bounds? call of the week... and its only monday Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146699-rick-kelly-should-have-been-shot-into-the-sheets/page/10/#findComment-2756945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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