Rick Kelly Should Have Been Shot Into The Sheets

[N I B]

Sorry if this is a repost.

[benm]

Still a better paintjob than Lowndes` car!

[Neil]

How good is Deano,,,10th at the end of the year,,,another great prospect for 2007. Rocky would be proud.

Oh and before I forget,,,if you have a copy of AutoAction,,,have a look on page 44...what the hell does that tall girl/um bloke have happening in its bikini bottoms?.

[blackrex]

  Neil said:

Oh and before I forget,,,if you have a copy of AutoAction,,,have a look on page 44...what the hell does that tall girl/um bloke have happening in its bikini bottoms?.

Can anyone say, Camel Toe?

[benm]

Beer Baron wants u to post pics of the he-she.

[Jamesyboi]

good racing, but perhaps Lowndes should of won it if it wasn't for the love tap

[Russman]

I just finished watching it (I taped it) and I don't think Rick should be satisfied to say that he was the fair winner. Lowndes was more likely to win because he had a better car. It's bad that Garth did so much blocking to slow Craig down in the 2nd race. Lowndes blocks once in the third and Rick took him out. Just shows to me how good lowndes is as a driver. Everyone knows it. He's just a notch better than the rest and he deserved the win. Oh well bring on next year.

[scathing]

  Russman said:

I just finished watching it (I taped it) and I don't think Rick should be satisfied to say that he was the fair winner. Lowndes was more likely to win because he had a better car. It's bad that Garth did so much blocking to slow Craig down in the 2nd race.

While Lowndes might have had the better car, clearly Kelly had the better team.

[mid life crisis]

one for the ford sooks

[Russman]

  scathing said:

While Lowndes might have had the better car, clearly Kelly had the better team.

Better team? I say dirtier team.

[OZ_Pomy]

see above post and grab a handle full of tissues

[scathing]

  Russman said:

Better team? I say dirtier team.

Mating call of the loser.

Holden won within the bounds of the rules. That Ford wasn't in a situation where they could box Kelly in just shows how far behind the pace their cars or drivers are. Aside from Ford's star driver, they couldn't get enough competitors up into the pointy end of the field to advance their team's cause.

[Kel]

  mid life crisis said:

one for the ford sooks

Am I the only one chuckling at how long it took Holden fans to come up with response on this

[ctjet]

  mid life crisis said:

one for the ford sooks

hahahaha... one in the shape of a tiny violin would have been a killer

[Whiplash]

lol

[Russman]

  scathing said:

Mating call of the loser.

Holden won within the bounds of the rules. That Ford wasn't in a situation where they could box Kelly in just shows how far behind the pace their cars or drivers are. Aside from Ford's star driver, they couldn't get enough competitors up into the pointy end of the field to advance their team's cause.

Within the rules yeah for sure but if kelly didn't hit him Lowndes would more likely have won. Kelly can't be satisfied with that as a fair win.

Lets all get our cars to get to the front just to stop the faster car from getting away. Yeah awesome...

Mating call of the loser??? what are you.. national geographic?

[scathing]

  Russman said:

Within the rules yeah for sure but if kelly didn't hit him Lowndes would more likely have won. Kelly can't be satisfied with that as a fair win.

Yeah, and if everyone just pulled out of the race Lowndes would more likely have won too. Or if everyone just pulled out of the way and lifted off the throttle whenver Lowndes approached, he'd more likely have won.

Please. Have a whinge.

Last time I checked they were racing for position, not running in a time attack. And when you race for position, you have the right to defend that position. If the the contact was anything but a racing incident, the stewards would have done something during or after the race.

From my perspective (given that I don't follow V8 Supercars, and I couldn't give a toss about Ford nor Holden but I do like motorsport, is pretty independent) it looked to me like Lowndes drove into Kelly.

If you look at the side angle shot, you can see Lowndes angle across the road to avoid running into the back of Todd. When you see the in-car footage from Rick's car, the white line marking the edge of the track is right next to the car (showing that he's at the extreme edge of the track), and doesn't change at all. So Rick never deviated from his line all the way up to the moment of impact. And, at that point in the track (high speed and deep into the braking point of a pretty tight turn) there's very little margin of error to steer around in at the best of times, let alone being on the wrong side of the track for the race line.

With Rick at the extreme right of the track, and Lowndes occupying the middle, there was nowhere for Rick to go. If he'd gone any further right he'd be on the grass, which would have had him either spin out or lose grip in the braking zone. If he'd gone left, he would have clipped the tail end of Lowndes car anyway. The difference being that, in that situation, he actually would have been at fault. So he held his line, and Lowndes tried to cut in and ended up clipping him instead.

Lowndes got blocked by a very slow moving Todd, pure and simple. And instead of passively allowing himself to get ganged up on by the opposing team, he decided to try and muscle into a gap between the two Holdens that simply wasn't there. An aggressive move, one that I'd expect from a racing driver in championship contention, but evidently the wrong one. And paid the penalty for his error in judgement.

  Russman said:

Lets all get our cars to get to the front just to stop the faster car from getting away.

You have to actually be, you know, fast to get all your cars up to the front. How the f**k do you get a slower car in front of a faster car, unless they're being lapped (which wasn't the case here). It sounds like you have little to no idea about how motor racing actually works.

So, QED when it comes to my comment about Ford not being able to string a decent team of drivers and cars together since evidently Holden was dominating the top of the field.

[Russman]

  scathing said:

Yeah, and if everyone just pulled out of the race Lowndes would more likely have won too. Or if everyone just pulled out of the way and lifted off the throttle whenver Lowndes approached, he'd more likely have won.

Please. Have a whinge.

Last time I checked they were racing for position, not running in a time attack. And when you race for position, you have the right to defend that position. If the the contact was anything but a racing incident, the stewards would have done something during or after the race.

From my perspective (given that I don't follow V8 Supercars, and I couldn't give a toss about Ford nor Holden but I do like motorsport, is pretty independent) it looked to me like Lowndes drove into Kelly.

If you look at the side angle shot, you can see Lowndes angle across the road to avoid running into the back of Todd. When you see the in-car footage from Rick's car, the white line marking the edge of the track is right next to the car (showing that he's at the extreme edge of the track), and doesn't change at all. So Rick never deviated from his line all the way up to the moment of impact. And, at that point in the track (high speed and deep into the braking point of a pretty tight turn) there's very little margin of error to steer around in at the best of times, let alone being on the wrong side of the track for the race line.

With Rick at the extreme right of the track, and Lowndes occupying the middle, there was nowhere for Rick to go. If he'd gone any further right he'd be on the grass, which would have had him either spin out or lose grip in the braking zone. If he'd gone left, he would have clipped the tail end of Lowndes car anyway. The difference being that, in that situation, he actually would have been at fault. So he held his line, and Lowndes tried to cut in and ended up clipping him instead.

Lowndes got blocked by a very slow moving Todd, pure and simple. And instead of passively allowing himself to get ganged up on by the opposing team, he decided to try and muscle into a gap between the two Holdens that simply wasn't there. An aggressive move, one that I'd expect from a racing driver in championship contention, but evidently the wrong one. And paid the penalty for his error in judgement.

You have to actually be, you know, fast to get all your cars up to the front. How the f**k do you get a slower car in front of a faster car, unless they're being lapped (which wasn't the case here). It sounds like you have little to no idea about how motor racing actually works.

So, QED when it comes to my comment about Ford not being able to string a decent team of drivers and cars together since evidently Holden was dominating the top of the field.

Please have a whinge...

HSV/HRT TEAM will probably not be owned by the same mob (Walkinshaw) next year so it might be better for competition.

[scathing]

  Russman said:

HSV/HRT TEAM will probably not be owned by the same mob (Walkinshaw) next year so it might be better for competition.

TWR sold HSV to Mark Skaife in 2003. He's back managing it, but he's certainly not the owner anymore.

Does your ignorance know any bounds?

[ctjet]

  scathing said:

Does your ignorance know any bounds?

call of the week... and its only monday